Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:56 pm  

Be very, very careful on this subject: as charges have been made, the matter is now sub judice.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:13 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

A moment's thought and you'd reject that; since time immemorial an endless stream of humans have been responsible for countless unspeakable acts. Clearly they all thought differently, but while a small number may be insane, most are, it turns out, just evil scumbags.

I was talking about his specific action within the current society and climate. No doubt there are plenty of people, including some who have posted on this thread, who would be more than capable under the right circumstance. What I'm confused about is where these people come from and if they are actually aware of their own nature or not. Like the guy with the Margaret Thatcher avatar who just got exposed and then for some reason decided to call me a bigot. Is he actually aware of himself, does he realise what he's doing and what he is and just go along with it anyway? Is it some metalogical form of trolling or are they just hopelessly oblivious to the point of delusion? It's all very strange to me.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:23 am  

headhunter wrote:

Just to clarify once again, this man shouted "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain" when asked for his name in court. Either you acknowledge his political motive or stick your fingers in your ears and bury your head in the sand. I expect you will do the latter.

Doesn't mean he had anything to do with the leave campaign.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:28 am  

wigan_rlfc wrote:

Doesn't mean he had anything to do with the leave campaign.

They are related in the same way the vast majority of Islamic terrorism in the West isn't perpetrated by card-carrying members of Al-Qaeda/ISIS etc. They are inspired by their rhetoric and view points. In this case the demonisation of immigrants.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:36 am  

Him wrote:

They are related in the same way the vast majority of Islamic terrorism in the West isn't perpetrated by card-carrying members of Al-Qaeda/ISIS etc. They are inspired by their rhetoric and view points. In this case the demonisation of immigrants.

No foundation for that assumption , quite possibly he might have had personal experiences that have driven his actions

We don't know

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:22 pm  

GUBRATS wrote:

No foundation for that assumption , quite possibly he might have had personal experiences that have driven his actions

We don't know

Bull. It is exactly the same as the Orlando shooting. Someone not directly affiliated with a group or ideology but influenced by its rhetoric.
By hate-filled cr&p such as this:

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:02 pm  

Him wrote:

Bull. It is exactly the same as the Orlando shooting. Someone not directly affiliated with a group or ideology but influenced by its rhetoric.
By hate-filled cr&p such as this:

Don't pretend that Starbug doesn't eat that type of stuff up, the man is definitely a UKIP voter.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:15 pm  

Him wrote:

Bull. It is exactly the same as the Orlando shooting. Someone not directly affiliated with a group or ideology but influenced by its rhetoric.
By hate-filled cr&p such as this:

Are you the blokes paperboy ?

Never actually seen any of those headlines , then again , never bought a Daily Express , or Mail for that matter , don't think I've bought a newspaper for 15 years

Have seen 1st hand the effects of immigration on the NHS though , and on local streets at 2 am in the morning

As I said we don't know his reasons for sure , so I'll wait till more information is made public before drawing conclusions

You're free to do the opposite

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:21 pm  

headhunter wrote:

Don't pretend that Starbug doesn't eat that type of stuff up, the man is definitely a UKIP voter.

UKIP didn't exist the last time I voted

last time I read a Daily Mail was at my Grandads in the 70s when I followed the adventures of Fred Bassett

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:42 pm  

GUBRATS wrote:

A couple of interesting articles in the Mail today outlining the spending by the EU bureauocrats and the general feeling around the northern Labour heartlands , mirroring what I've been seeing when asking people how they are voting

Just realised I have read a Daily Mail recently , well part of it that was handed to me at my in laws when discussing the the referendum during a visit

The quote was from the 11th of June