Re: NHS - RIP 1 April 2013 : Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:49 am  

cod'ead wrote:

I suggest you:

a) Attempt to understand the "swedish model" of which you speak

b) Make an effort at comprehending what I have written in the past

At no point have I indicated approval of the Swedish healthcare system

unfortunately i do understand what the swedish model is. your bleating, "oh, why don't you compare us with countries like sweden etc" shows you hadn't the first clue how they do things. then the reverse gear kicks in when someone points out that they sell anything off that isn't nailed down. so now you don't want us to compare ourselves with sweden? nice u-turn. you're a true tory.

Re: NHS - RIP 1 April 2013 : Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:53 am  

cod'ead wrote:

No ones taxes will reduce, apart from those earning more than £150k per year. .

my tax has reduced. why do you insist on making things up?

The poor will end up poorer, the sick will end up even more sick. This bunch of evil bastads are going further than even Thatcher would have dreamed possible and the frightening thing is: it is happening by creep. There will be no big bang, just a relentless chipping away at the social compact that we've enjoyed since 1947. I cannot even begin to explain how deep my hatred of the Conservative party and their supporters is but I do know that the hatred grows as each day of this government continues.

waah, waah, waah. grow up. 25 million people voted for the 3 main parties in 2010. all on a "cuts" ticket. and no doubt some of those are bleating about how unfair everything is. they had their chance at the polls, but they couldn't be arsed to think for themselves. gutless sheep.

Re: NHS - RIP 1 April 2013 : Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:55 am  

WIZEB wrote:

It's the passivity of all of us that should know better that is fooking killing me!
Where have all the soldiers gone?

passivity? 25million people voted for this in 2010. since 1979 a vote for the tories of labour has been a vote for the privatisation of the nhs. are you one of those gutless sheep?

Re: NHS - RIP 1 April 2013 : Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:58 am  

samwire wrote:

passivity? 25million people voted for this in 2010. since 1979 a vote for the tories of labour has been a vote for the privatisation of the nhs. are you one of those gutless sheep?

Just as well I've never voted for either then, isn't it boy?
You don't know what bollox are.
I can tell from what you post that you haven't got a pair!

Re: NHS - RIP 1 April 2013 : Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:01 pm  

samwire wrote:

passivity? 25million people voted for this in 2010. since 1979 a vote for the tories of labour has been a vote for the privatisation of the nhs. are you one of those gutless sheep?

25 million voted for this bunch - are you sure ?

Re: NHS - RIP 1 April 2013 : Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:06 pm  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

25 million voted for this bunch - are you sure ?

total vote for the 3 main parties on 2010. give a take a few thousand.

Re: NHS - RIP 1 April 2013 : Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:09 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

Just as well I've never voted for either then, isn't it boy?
You don't know what bollox are.
I can tell from what you post that you haven't got a pair!

i wouldn't have a pair if i just believed the tripe spouted by the usual suspects round here. like a gutless sheep.

Re: NHS - RIP 1 April 2013 : Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:09 pm  

samwire wrote:

total vote for the 3 main parties on 2010. give a take a few thousand.

Where did you cast your X sammy boy?

Re: NHS - RIP 1 April 2013 : Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:14 pm  

WIZEB wrote:

Where did you cast your X sammy boy?

somewhere nice and independent. as voting for one of the big 3 then bleating like a stuck pig about nhs privatisation, spending cuts etc would make me nothing more than a hypocritical oaf.

Re: NHS - RIP 1 April 2013 : Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:16 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Very easily - falling margins due to increases in material and other costs - increasing labour costs simply compounds an already desperate position. You give a pay award and you become less competitive this will cost jobs in the long run. Contorary to what the likes of Mr Fish think - most companies are trying to employ the maximum number of people for the maximum amount of time. The company I work for has no given a pay award for 4 years, that is pretty much the norm in this industry.

I solution I would prefer would be no annual award but a bonus based on performance across the whole work force. The idea that everyone should get a 4% increase because inflation is at that level is outdated old style leftie thinking. and is unsustainable in today's economic climate.

And in an economy that is dependent on the service sector (including retail), hacking back wages (for all but the already well off) is economic illiteracy.

Mind, reading that the idea of pay keeping pace with inflation is "outdated old style leftie thinking" does make me realise we're in the realms of cheap soundbites and easy tribalism.