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Re: 17 Billion buys a lot of bongos : Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:39 pm  
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So, apart from his mildly disparaging description of the continent of Africa, was Godfrey actually Wrong in his assessment?


He's not wrong. I think too much is given away.
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So, apart from his mildly disparaging description of the continent of Africa, was Godfrey actually Wrong in his assessment?


He's not wrong. I think too much is given away.
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Re: 17 Billion buys a lot of bongos : Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:13 am  
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He's not wrong. I think too much is given away.

Gosh, that's a surprise ... and with such detailed and thoughtful reasoning to support your view.
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Re: 17 Billion buys a lot of bongos : Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:18 am  
Despite now trying to sell the amount of overseas aid we give as a means if limiting potential immigration to the UK by saying if we help fix problems in other countries their nationals won't come running here, I do believe Cameron does see a moral obligation to provide overseas aid to the poorest countries. It's the last vestige of moral decency I can see in a pretty vile and reactionary government.

I think it's interesting he is having to appeal to his core vote by taking this line - that it is somehow an anti-immigration policy as its an illustration of the moral bankruptcy of many of is core support.

Not only can't they see the moral responsibility owed to the poor in this country they have to be persuaded it's in their self interest to support overseas aid (or so Cameron thinks). Never mind giving aid to help the poorest people in the world because its the right thing to do in its own right.

Yes there is corruption just as there are benefits cheats and tax evaders and avoiders. Given the way a minority of benefit abuse and a few extreme cases of high benefit payouts shape entire government policy on welfare it's quite amazing the same hasn't happened with overseas aid and we no longer give any!
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Re: 17 Billion buys a lot of bongos : Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:46 pm  
£17 billion also buys quite a lot of work for UK companies and workers. Much of the aid budget is given in soft loans that are to be used to buy from UK companies. The expectation being that those loans will never be repaid.
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Re: 17 Billion buys a lot of bongos : Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:30 pm  
We give aid to a corrupt "bongo bongo" country, Mr President of said "bongo bongo" country spends it on UK made weapons to kill off all those that stand against him, we recieve all the money back plus the preferential treatment of any Mining/building projects and actually end up better off financially.

What's the problem?

This is tongue in cheek
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Re: 17 Billion buys a lot of bongos : Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:45 pm  
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... also reactionary, misogynistic drunkard and lecher.



so he's not all bad then. :)
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Re: 17 Billion buys a lot of bongos : Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:17 pm  
My major bug bear is that we give millions to countries that are spending fortunes on nuclear weapons and space programmes that are more advanced than our own whilst neglecting to provide food, water, health care and sanitation for the vast majority of their populations.
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Re: 17 Billion buys a lot of bongos : Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:50 am  
Rather than give billions in cash could we not give billions in services i.e. if you want a dam building we will build the dam for you at no cost to you? Or would we not win the contract unless we provide 25% more than it costs to build the dam in 'consultancy fees'!!
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Re: 17 Billion buys a lot of bongos : Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:56 am  
Can't we just sell them arm's?
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Re: 17 Billion buys a lot of bongos : Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:49 am  
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Can't we just sell them arm's?


Or fighter planes and tanks?
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