Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 15, 2012 10:47 am  

Contingencies are in place

Contingencies are in place

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 15, 2012 11:47 am  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

TBH I am rather inpressed but shocked that the CPS has had the stones to charge her.

Given the CPS' record, I am not sure this will lead anywhere. Probably is posturing.

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 15, 2012 11:59 am  

Dally wrote: Given the CPS' record, I am not sure this will lead anywhere. Probably is posturing. Which "record" is this? A link to some proper evidence (see what I did there!) will be helpful. In fact I'll help http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/reports/2010/annex_b.html 2010/11 Crown Court outcomes shows an 80% approx conviction rate,, based on convittion after trial and guilty pleas, with only a 6% acquittal rate after trial and a 20% overall acquittal rate. I'd guess that a private company would be fairly happy with an 80% success rate in their work in this area, given the complexities of criminal law and the fact that a third party (magistrates or jury) will consider the final decision. The fact that 70%+ of people charged pleaded guilty suggests that you're just trying and failing to have a dig at a public sector body again. Did they drop the charges against someone who offended Dally plc at some point? Is that why you're having a pop? The CPS ain't perfect but (on another thread perhaps) lets have your suggestions for a better system.

Dally wrote: Given the CPS' record, I am not sure this will lead anywhere. Probably is posturing. Which "record" is this? A link to some proper evidence (see what I did there!) will be helpful. In fact I'll help http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/reports/2010/annex_b.html 2010/11 Crown Court outcomes shows an 80% approx conviction rate,, based on convittion after trial and guilty pleas, with only a 6% acquittal rate after trial and a 20% overall acquittal rate. I'd guess that a private company would be fairly happy with an 80% success rate in their work in this area, given the complexities of criminal law and the fact that a third party (magistrates or jury) will consider the final decision. The fact that 70%+ of people charged pleaded guilty suggests that you're just trying and failing to have a dig at a public sector body again. Did they drop the charges against someone who offended Dally plc at some point? Is that why you're having a pop? The CPS ain't perfect but (on another thread perhaps) lets have your suggestions for a better system.

[tb]

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 15, 2012 12:08 pm  

Oh, and while we're at it "CPS" isn't plural. Therefore it doesn't take the plural possessive form. Just saying ...

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 15, 2012 12:18 pm  

Chris28 wrote: Which "record" is this? A link to some proper evidence (see what I did there!) will be helpful. In fact I'll help http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/reports/2010/annex_b.html 2010/11 Crown Court outcomes shows an 80% approx conviction rate,, based on convittion after trial and guilty pleas, with only a 6% acquittal rate after trial and a 20% overall acquittal rate. I'd guess that a private company would be fairly happy with an 80% success rate in their work in this area, given the complexities of criminal law and the fact that a third party (magistrates or jury) will consider the final decision. The fact that 70%+ of people charged pleaded guilty suggests that you're just trying and failing to have a dig at a public sector body again. Did they drop the charges against someone who offended Dally plc at some point? Is that why you're having a pop? The CPS ain't perfect but (on another thread perhaps) lets have your suggestions for a better system. This is the bit where Dally either.. A. changes tack due to him being proved to be talking silly talk again. Or B. He finds some website that has be previously ridiculed due to its 'selective' evidence to back himself up. Which one are we going to plum for today Dally?

Chris28 wrote: Which "record" is this? A link to some proper evidence (see what I did there!) will be helpful. In fact I'll help http://www.cps.gov.uk/publications/reports/2010/annex_b.html 2010/11 Crown Court outcomes shows an 80% approx conviction rate,, based on convittion after trial and guilty pleas, with only a 6% acquittal rate after trial and a 20% overall acquittal rate. I'd guess that a private company would be fairly happy with an 80% success rate in their work in this area, given the complexities of criminal law and the fact that a third party (magistrates or jury) will consider the final decision. The fact that 70%+ of people charged pleaded guilty suggests that you're just trying and failing to have a dig at a public sector body again. Did they drop the charges against someone who offended Dally plc at some point? Is that why you're having a pop? The CPS ain't perfect but (on another thread perhaps) lets have your suggestions for a better system. This is the bit where Dally either.. A. changes tack due to him being proved to be talking silly talk again. Or B. He finds some website that has be previously ridiculed due to its 'selective' evidence to back himself up. Which one are we going to plum for today Dally?

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 15, 2012 12:22 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

...Which one are we going to plum for today Dally?

Plump for.
Not plum.
Probably just a typo ... but worth mentioning so that Dally can't bring it up and hide behind it.

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 15, 2012 12:25 pm  

Dally wrote:

Given the CPS' record, I am not sure this will lead anywhere. Probably is posturing.

You mean the record of an organisation that frequently gets lambasted for NOT bringing charges because of insufficient evidence, the CPS that have all of the evidence from two parliamentary inquiries, numerous News Corp employees with an axe to grind because she cost them their livelihoods, the CPS that also have the sworn testimony of Culson amongst others.

That CPS?

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 15, 2012 12:25 pm  

You forgot option C, where Dally claims to have evidence supporting his ridiculous views, but says it's in a book that is unfortunately 'off-site'.

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 15, 2012 1:17 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

Plump for.
Not plum.
Probably just a typo ... but worth mentioning so that Dally can't bring it up and hide behind it.

Yeah it was but Dally will still use it instead of him admitting he is talking rubbish.

Re: News International – the story continues : Tue May 15, 2012 1:18 pm  

Rock God X wrote:

You forgot option C, where Dally claims to have evidence supporting his ridiculous views, but says it's in a book that is unfortunately 'off-site'.

Ah yes I seem to have omited 'C'.
Sorry