[DaveO]

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:12 pm  

Dally wrote:

I wasn't aware of the NHS being broken up. The idea is that it remainds free to the user but different services may be provided by different organisations. Indeed, a huge part of it has been privatised in exactly that way for years - GP surgeries!

Surgeries are where GP practices are located. GP practices are not private independent companies. They are all contracted to the NHS and that contract defines the hours they work, what they must do and what they get paid for doing it.

It is a simplistic myth to say GP practices are private companies.

The re-organisation is supposed to be bottom up - from the GPS / etc.

Whilst I totally disagree with re-organisation I am not sure you can say that they were not honest about their proposals.

The idea that the scrapping of the regional health authorities and PCT's with quangos put in place to oversee the new set up is some sort of bottom up GP led reorganisation is ridiculous.

On a wider point Cameron said quite clearly during the election campaign that if elected (I can not recall the exact phrase, but in essence as follows) that they would hugely change Britain and its society forever. In other words, that they would rip up the post-War state machinery that people like us have been brought up with and, presumably, make up more of a US type state. Hideous maybe, but dishonest not.

You cannot possibly claim saying any of that trumps saying that there won't be a top down reorganisation of the NHS.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:00 pm  

The Risk Register?

The Risk Register?

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:23 am  

cod'ead wrote: The Risk Register? Given the sources who were tweeting that last night, that's the real thing.

cod'ead wrote: The Risk Register? Given the sources who were tweeting that last night, that's the real thing.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:15 pm  

Patient choice in action?

Patient choice in action?

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:40 pm  

cod'ead wrote: Patient choice in action? just send another plane load over to France for treatment ? it's worked well since 2002 so why stop now ?

cod'ead wrote: Patient choice in action? just send another plane load over to France for treatment ? it's worked well since 2002 so why stop now ?

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:27 am  

More jobs for the boys You never know, after all Lansley's mates have been employed as consultants (non-medical) to CCGs, there just might be a couple of quid left over for patient care

More jobs for the boys You never know, after all Lansley's mates have been employed as consultants (non-medical) to CCGs, there just might be a couple of quid left over for patient care

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:24 am  

Lansley's latest wheeze? Cut funding to deprived areas and redistribute it to CCGs in more affluent areas Yet more evidence of a very real drive towards a socially and politically engineered demographic: they know they'll struggle for votes in most deprived areas, so let the fookers die.

Lansley's latest wheeze? Cut funding to deprived areas and redistribute it to CCGs in more affluent areas Yet more evidence of a very real drive towards a socially and politically engineered demographic: they know they'll struggle for votes in most deprived areas, so let the fookers die.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Thu May 10, 2012 7:03 pm  

Workfare coming to an NHS ward near you I dread to think what Dally's reaction to this one might be

Workfare coming to an NHS ward near you I dread to think what Dally's reaction to this one might be

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue May 22, 2012 12:00 pm  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18143085 Can't say they weren't warned. First thing I said to Mr HWS two years ago when this shower got in was thank goodness I had my hip and knee replacements when I did or else I'd be waiting months and months if I ever got them at all considering my age.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18143085 Can't say they weren't warned. First thing I said to Mr HWS two years ago when this shower got in was thank goodness I had my hip and knee replacements when I did or else I'd be waiting months and months if I ever got them at all considering my age.

Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins : Tue May 22, 2012 12:15 pm  

Hull White Star wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18143085

Can't say they weren't warned. First thing I said to Mr HWS two years ago when this shower got in was thank goodness I had my hip and knee replacements when I did or else I'd be waiting months and months if I ever got them at all considering my age.

Its as plain as the nose on everyones face that in every business you can't make big cuts to budgets without affecting the frontline service to the customers - in any business.

You can tiptoe around the issue if you like and sack all of your warehouse and admin staff and then tell everyone that frontline services shouldn't be affected because all your sales and support staff are still out on the road, but you'd be buls1tting the customers if you said that and they will soon notice the difference.

For the NHS its obvious that you can't make the sort of cuts that they are talking about without affecting frontline services as indeed it is for the police, the politicians can tell us what they like but actually its only the politicians that continue to believe themselves, they are working a get-rich-in-five-years scam for themselves and I actually find myself hoping that things get much, much worse before the next election just to finally validate to everyone just what its like to run the country on a shoestring under another Tory Government who don't believe in public services, at all.