Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:24 pm  

Back on topic Normally this would be classed as a CONSPIRACY Alleged jihadi tourist caught with a stash of gun training videos after returning from Syria 'was a paid MI5 helper' Police discovered terror-related material at the south London home of Muslim convert Mustafa Abdullah, 34, after seizing his mobile phone when he landed in the UK last year, it was heard. Giving evidence in his defence, Abdullah said he first became involved with the British security service between January and August 2008. His lawyer Andrew Hill asked: 'What was the purpose of the contact?' The father-of-four replied: 'Basically, they were saying, "can you spy for us?". I said Muslims don't spy, however, I will assist you. I don't hang around with people like that but if I do, I will let you know.' Abdullah told jurors he was paid £10,000, adding: 'I didn't need the money but they wanted to give it, so I took it.' Three months before he went to Syria, MI5 agent 'Graham' called him up and asked for a meeting, but he rebuffed him, the defendant said. £10.000 of your money

Back on topic Normally this would be classed as a CONSPIRACY Alleged jihadi tourist caught with a stash of gun training videos after returning from Syria 'was a paid MI5 helper' Police discovered terror-related material at the south London home of Muslim convert Mustafa Abdullah, 34, after seizing his mobile phone when he landed in the UK last year, it was heard. Giving evidence in his defence, Abdullah said he first became involved with the British security service between January and August 2008. His lawyer Andrew Hill asked: 'What was the purpose of the contact?' The father-of-four replied: 'Basically, they were saying, "can you spy for us?". I said Muslims don't spy, however, I will assist you. I don't hang around with people like that but if I do, I will let you know.' Abdullah told jurors he was paid £10,000, adding: 'I didn't need the money but they wanted to give it, so I took it.' Three months before he went to Syria, MI5 agent 'Graham' called him up and asked for a meeting, but he rebuffed him, the defendant said. £10.000 of your money

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:13 pm  

I've just come across this article, here a former CIA, NSA agent Steve D Kelley speaks out regarding the St Bernardino False flag event. Steve's declares "expect a long line of more false flagged events . “The people that were on the scene and saw this happen also reported that three tall white men wearing black shirts, khaki pants and tanned combat boots were actually the shooters. The description is almost exactly what the gentlemen from Craft International, the mercenary organization that was involved in so many other false flags, actually look like. This seems to be their standard uniform,” FULL ARTICLE AND VIDEO INTERVIEW CLICK

I've just come across this article, here a former CIA, NSA agent Steve D Kelley speaks out regarding the St Bernardino False flag event. Steve's declares "expect a long line of more false flagged events . “The people that were on the scene and saw this happen also reported that three tall white men wearing black shirts, khaki pants and tanned combat boots were actually the shooters. The description is almost exactly what the gentlemen from Craft International, the mercenary organization that was involved in so many other false flags, actually look like. This seems to be their standard uniform,” FULL ARTICLE AND VIDEO INTERVIEW CLICK

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:33 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

....your topsy turvy vitriolic abuse.

I only replied to the previous post as is my right of reply, given the abuse you had aimed directly at me. I reply only for the same reason.

My post under reply contained - Vitriol: zero. Abuse: zero.

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

....Secondly,just to let everybody know i'm again being challenged and goaded into a Geocentric debate,

Not even a bit. I am simply pointing out one fact, that you were asked one simple question, which you won't answer.As for "geocentric debate", there IS no debate. The evidence is so overwhelming and the flatearthism so mind-numbingly unscientific and frankly mad, that it doesn't qualify for a "debate" any more than fairies at the bottom of the garden do.

You don't have any intention to debate, because you can't debate. You can't answer the simplest question.

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

....With regard to Australia's moon being semi circled upside down, it's a very simple answer to a very simple question, asked by a very simple person. It's all about perspective for example, If you for instance sit in the south east corner of your sitting room and use your lounge light as the moon imagine it being semi circled from upside down, where you're sat is Australia, now go and sit in the facing opposite corner the North West of the room we'll call that area Saudi Arabia to which you would observe the moon being semi circular from the top. It's all about perspective's which obviously you don't understand yet.

You see, you can't just answer a straight question. You feel compelled to lace whatever drivel you write with antagonistic, sneering, nasty bullcrap. This says a lot about you.

Second, your bizarre "example" doesn't work. Wherever I sit in my room, the "semicircle" will always be pointing the same way. I will (obviously) se it from a different perspective, but its up-down orientation (obviously) doesn't change. At all. From anywhere in the room.

Anyway, the moon is a sphere, not a crescent. Make you room light a simple sphere. Paint a big red spot on the bottom. The spot will be at the bottom whether viewed from ANY part of the room.

In the case of the moon, it isn't a featureless sphere. It has well known topography. You can see, from anywhere on the planet, which part to you from where you are viewing looks "up". It isn't a question of illumination. What I see as the "top" of the moon would look to me as the "bottom" of the moon if I moved to Australia.

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

....Now i've answered your repeated question ...

The thing is, you haven't. At all. Your example is very plain nonsense. Anyone can see through it in a second. Indeed, unless you are insane - which I doubt - you must very well know your "example" is nonsense. This is what my problem is with you. It strongly indicates that nothing you say is to be taken sremotely seriously. I mean, you cannot possibly actually believe that a room lamp will invert itself, or appear inverted, from different ends of a room. Can you?

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

....I have a million and one decent questions to ask you about the bile that NASA dish out which i know you haven't got a cat in hell's chance of answering.

Excuse me? You know i haven't a chance of answering questiuons you haven't asked? Are you now claiming to be psychic to add to the rest?

If that were true, you could always start your own thread and pose your stunning questions. If any were interesting, people might even choose to engage them.

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

...... the ficticious Night Sky ...

...isn't fictitious at all. the nice thing is anyone can view it, clear sky permitting, from anywhere on the globe. That is your insurmountable problem.

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

.... I think the best option for me is to stay away from childish vitriol bullshit and use the old gracious Foe Button.

One of us continually posts threats and abuse and one of us doesn't. Your problem is you actually can't stand calm, rational discussion.

Do catch the ISS on its numerous (predictable) passes this next few days. While you're at it, maybe you could plot its path on a map of your "flat earth" and explain how the feck it does that

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:45 pm  

Didn't he tell you that he lies down first?
He lies in one corner raises his head and looks at the light bulb.
It is hanging down, with Osram written on the bottom.

He then slides on his booty to the opposite corner without changing the direction of his feet until they hit the wall.
He now looks back. Hey presto, the bulb is hanging up with Osram written on the top.
Case proven.
He of course hasn't realised in effect he has turned upside down.
Oh silly him!
Shall I put a bank of three laughing emoticons?
It seems to be the trend.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:46 pm  

I'know exactly what you've written, it'll be vitriolic CHILDISH nonsense. followed by a load of heliocentric bullshit even though i can't see it due to the beauty of the Foe button. Hmmm Bliss

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:51 pm  

If two people argue without actually reading each other's posts, are they even arguing at all?

Anyway, as any fule kno, it's turtles all the way down.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:54 pm  

Stand-Offish wrote:

Didn't he tell you that he lies down first?
He lies in one corner raises his head and looks at the light bulb.
It is hanging down, with Osram written on the bottom.

He then slides on his booty to the opposite corner without changing the direction of his feet until they hit the wall.
He now looks back. Hey presto, the bulb is hanging up with Osram written on the top.
Case proven.
He of course hasn't realised in effect he has turned upside down.
Oh silly him!
Shall I put a bank of three laughing emoticons?
It seems to be the trend.

Poor Stan. He is upset cos he can't now see my posts. Maybe you could quote the last one for him. I wouldn't want him to miss out.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:55 pm  

Can't see the sense in the foe button used in this way ... except maybe to an ostrich.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:35 pm  

I was wisely advised to use the Foe button, you see when there's schizoid's about with multiple accounts goading me into arguments and there's actually folk conspiring in the background whom agree with some conspirittoral views but publically continue to poke the stick.

MUGWUMP On the other hand I do know of at least THREE alternative accounts regularly posting in this forum. Once again, who is kidding who here?

. MUGWUMP The weird thing is - on at least three occasions I've caught out people who take great delight in ridiculing any and all conspiracies publicly espousing a completely different viewpoint in private. This leads me to believe that truth is far less important than social inclusion to these people.

So from now on i'll only engage conversation with certain folk.There's obviously some weirdo's knocking about.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:09 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

I was wisely advised to use the Foe button, you see when there's schizoid's about with multiple accounts goading me into arguments and there's actually folk conspiring in the background whom agree with some conspirittoral views but publically continue to poke the stick.

So from now on i'll only engage conversation with certain folk.There's obviously some weirdo's knocking about.

They are goading you because you are insane.
Worryingly, you are the type of person who ends up with a gun in their hands.
Mad, absolutely loving bonkers.