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Re: Workfare judged illegal : Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:00 am  
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I personally think they should get the minimum wage for participation - I have also said that on this thread - but then what is the incentive to the employer?


A steady stream of employees they can evaluate and employ the best of, recruitment costs are a considerable part of the business expenses.
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Re: Workfare judged illegal : Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:55 am  
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Are you not aware the car is leased and still under manufactureres warranty for 3 years? After that time the car deprectiates, comes out of warranty and would cost the charity a lot of money. Another reason we get an "extravagance".


Its also at the direction of the leasing company (whoever they use), the optimum time to turn the cars into cash being in the year when the initial hit on depreciation has happened and whilst the mileage is low enough to keep the car in the highest second hand value column - ex-mobility cars at three years old with average 6k per annum on the clock are absolute bargains, they've been driven gently (in the main), not owned by idiots, and are usually spotless - I picked up a Focus once at 3 years old with 6k on the clock, I viewed it before it had been valeted and when we lifted the bonnet it looked as though it was still in the showroom, absolute bargain.

Another good source was always Benfields who picked up all of the Jersey and Guernsey rental Fords every winter, registered just nine months earlier they had spent six months being driven by holidaymakers who could never drive more than a dozen miles in any direction, and yet the rental company had taken the first years depreciation :D
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Re: Workfare judged illegal : Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:29 am  
Looks like IDS blew another gasket on LBC last week. :)

In the words of his party leader he needs to, 'calm down dear'.



http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/20/iain-duncan-smiths-explodes-on-lbc-over-workfare_n_2725765.html
Looks like IDS blew another gasket on LBC last week. :)

In the words of his party leader he needs to, 'calm down dear'.



http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/20/iain-duncan-smiths-explodes-on-lbc-over-workfare_n_2725765.html
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Re: Workfare judged illegal : Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:15 am  
It is well worth listening to the recording of that – very good indeed.
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Re: Workfare judged illegal : Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:32 am  
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It is well worth listening to the recording of that – very good indeed.


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http://www.lbc.co.uk/james-obriens-blog-3514/entry/81/9328
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It is well worth listening to the recording of that – very good indeed.


Blog. (I wish I could do that fancy thing and just write the word blog instead of having to put up the URL. Mind, I'm that thick it took me about 3 years to suss out how to display an image. :lol: ).

http://www.lbc.co.uk/james-obriens-blog-3514/entry/81/9328
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Re: Workfare judged illegal : Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:06 am  
Mintball wrote:
It is well worth listening to the recording of that – very good indeed.

This bit was interesting:

Iain Duncan Smith said: "She was being paid for it, what do you think the taxpayer was paying her for God's sake? Her job seekers allowance. The taxpayer is paying her wages."


Oops. Did IDS just open HMG up to prosecution for breaking Minimum Wage laws? :)
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Re: Workfare judged illegal : Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:09 am  
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Blog. (I wish I could do that fancy thing and just write the word blog instead of having to put up the URL. Mind, I'm that thick it took me about 3 years to suss out how to display an image. :lol: ).

http://www.lbc.co.uk/james-obriens-blog-3514/entry/81/9328


[url=

then the url, then

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Does that help? :D
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Re: Workfare judged illegal : Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:09 am  
Kosh wrote:
This bit was interesting:

Oops. Did IDS just open HMG up to prosecution for breaking Minimum Wage laws? :)


Well it's interesting, isn't it?
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Re: Workfare judged illegal : Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:12 am  
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Well it's interesting, isn't it?

On the face of it he just drove a coach and horses through his own departments carefully constructed 'these are still benefits not wages' smokescreen.
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Re: Workfare judged illegal : Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:18 am  
Kosh wrote:
On the face of it he just drove a coach and horses through his own departments carefully constructed 'these are still benefits not wages' smokescreen.


It's one of those situations where you'd love to have the money to fund a legal challenge. :D
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