Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:11 pm  

The testing would be a joke if it was not so serious. We are doing 14,000 tests per day compared to Germany who do 50,000. To end the home restrictions they will need to know who carries the virus or has had the virus. At the current rate we will have found a cure long before this is completed.
There is no excuse but they do insist on waffling in an attempt to cover up their failures.

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:28 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

The testing would be a joke if it was not so serious. We are doing 14,000 tests per day compared to Germany who do 50,000. To end the home restrictions they will need to know who carries the virus or has had the virus. At the current rate we will have found a cure long before this is completed.
There is no excuse but they do insist on waffling in an attempt to cover up their failures.

Knowing who has/had the virus is of NO VALUE.

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:29 pm  

Yes it is because both will carry immunity

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Wed Apr 08, 2020 3:32 pm  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote: Yes it is because both will carry immunity You want to tell the scientists that....? Can you catch the coronavirus twice? We don’t know yet We don’t have enough evidence yet to know if recovering from covid-19 induces immunity, or whether any immunity would give long-lasting protection against the coronavirus

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote: Yes it is because both will carry immunity You want to tell the scientists that....? Can you catch the coronavirus twice? We don’t know yet We don’t have enough evidence yet to know if recovering from covid-19 induces immunity, or whether any immunity would give long-lasting protection against the coronavirus

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:34 pm  

IR80 wrote:

Knowing who has/had the virus is of NO VALUE.

The point is that without testing everyone who is suspected of having the virus, we will never know.
IF we were certain who had previously contracted the virus, we could then find out if it is possible to have it twice but, over here, nobody has a clue, not even the top medical staff.

One thing that should be happening is the testing of EVERY NHS member of staff who is returning to work after having "had the virus" but, we aren't doing this.
Doctors and nurses are rushing back to work after 7 days

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Wed Apr 08, 2020 4:35 pm  

You should tell the government because their initial plan was for herd immunity which they adopted delaying all other measures. It would appear all scientists have varying views and I have not come across many from outside the U.K. who are questioning the immunity question.

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Fri Apr 10, 2020 8:09 pm  

91 people in South Korea have tested positive for the virus after being cleared of it. So IR80 is right

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:26 pm  

Here’s the South Korea link I put up earlier about recovered patients testing positive again https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/south-korea-reports-recovered-coronavirus-patients-testing-positive-again If this is the case then continued testing is imperative. Boris Johnson’s government have been giving all sorts of mixed messages about this.

Here’s the South Korea link I put up earlier about recovered patients testing positive again https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/south-korea-reports-recovered-coronavirus-patients-testing-positive-again If this is the case then continued testing is imperative. Boris Johnson’s government have been giving all sorts of mixed messages about this.

[Durham Giant]

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:55 am  

Steph Curry wrote:

91 people in South Korea have tested positive for the virus after being cleared of it. So IR80 is right

No he is not.

No one who has been re infected has died and reports are that although they may have been reinfected theY get it milder which has to be a good things.

Also no one knows if anyone has been re infected.

It could be dodgy tests , tests done too early before they were fully recovered , they may never have been clear just dormant.

Th Epping is that testing needs to be set up so when we have more science we can respond to it.

[Durham Giant]

Re: coronavirus and sport ? : Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:10 am  

Durham Giant wrote:

Well let’s see.
We know there were problems in the supply chain because 10 days ago they were showing a huge warehouse full of PPE.

Now not been a logistics expert but in the middle of a pandemic I would like to be thinking that the warehouse would have being about 10% full with the other 90% in the hospitals where it was needed.

Other ideas

What are they doing to get British manufacturers ( not many I know because city workers actually create Sweet FA). But the ones that do should be opened up to produce PPE. Cotton face masks for everyone should not be impossible.

We have school teachers in the NE using their school equipment to print and make their own face shields they are donating to hospitals.

In Italy two young men used their design skills to adapt scuba masks to work as PPE.

Did I miss the appeal for scuba masks, did I miss the government announcement that Berghaus , rydale, Barbour were now to make protective clothing ?

That’s what happens in a crisis. Leaders lead and plan

This is what I posted last week in response to IR80about what the government could do about PPE although he never replied.

Yesterday Matt Hancock announces that they were asking businesses to see if they could switch production to make PPE. It is shocking that common sense as seems to take all the big brains in government days longer to register with them.

This could and should have been done weeks ago.

Medical staff and others still do not have PPE. Yesterday Hancock blames medical staff for the shortage saying that

There's enough PPE to go around, but only if it's used in line with our guidance. We need everyone to treat PPE like the precious resource that it is," he said.

What is happening is that DOH guidance on PPE changes on WHETHER THEY HAVE ENOUGH PPE.

NOT Clinical need.

My sister is working frontline as a nurse with people with breathing difficulties.

They do not have enough PPE so one of the Drs started making their own facial screens.

My sister was wearing one when a senior manger come around and told her she could not wear it as it was not an something that met agreed standards .

My sister then asked if she could have one that met approved standards to be told, “ we don’t have any at the minute”.

My siste’r said that she would happily swap her heath Robinson design for a proper one withe next time the manager came down.

Her and her colleagues then walked off ignoring the manager to treat patients knowing that the manager would not follow .

ThIs is an absolute scandal that even now the government has no idea how to provide staff with the right equipment.