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| Shouldn't this lot be on the cyber bullying thread?
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Proof, if ever we needed it, that you are economically illiterate.'"
This coming from the man who predicted 'not much growth' between the start of last year and the next election and, after being proved comprehensively wrong refuses to hold his hands up and admit it. Cringeworthy.
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"No, I like calling him Gideon, its his Christian name, the one he was christened with, so I'll call him Gideon, its a nice name and it makes him sound like a toff and a bit Jewish so its win/win all along.'"
Is there something wrong with him sounding 'a bit Jewish'?
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| Oy vey and he should have had his Bar Mitzvah at 13 already the schmuck!
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"Is there something wrong with him sounding 'a bit Jewish'?'"
No. But then you look at Ed M's attempts at leadership and policy making and wonder .
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| Quote Dally="Dally"No. But then you look at Ed M's attempts at leadership and policy making and wonder .'"
It's the nose.
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| Quote Stand-Offish="Stand-Offish"It's the nose.'"
It's the space between the ears.
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| You have to love Ed Balls.
For years he had been asking the Tories to adopt Plan B.
Now he says he wants to balance the books by 2020.
Austerity is the aim of the game.
After being outmanoeuvred on the economy at every turn he now wants to adopt the Tories plan A. Maybe he thinks the Tories are doing such a good job nowadays he should just do as they do.
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"You have to love Ed Balls.
For years he had been asking the Tories to adopt Plan B.
Now he says he wants to balance the books by 2020.
Austerity is the aim of the game.
After being outmanoeuvred on the economy at every turn he now wants to adopt the Tories plan A. Maybe he thinks the Tories are doing such a good job nowadays he should just do as they do.'"
You really do need to read what is actually said and not what you believe is said
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"You really do need to read what is actually said and not what you believe is said'"
Balls wants austerity after moaning about it for years.
Labour have no credibility on the economy.
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"Balls wants austerity after moaning about it for years.
Labour have no credibility on the economy.'"
There really is absolutely no point in either explaining or debating with you. I may as well talk to a horse
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"There really is absolutely no point in either explaining or debating with you. I may as well talk to a horse'"
The feeling is mutual. Bye then.
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"Is there something wrong with him sounding 'a bit Jewish'?'"
Not at all, its just that if its true that he changed his name because he thought that sounding a bit Jewish would affect his chances of progressing in politics then its all the more fun to keep reminding him of the fact, to be honest I think I'll start calling him Moses instead.
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"Not at all, its just that if its true that he changed his name because he thought that sounding a bit Jewish would affect his chances of progressing in politics then its all the more fun to keep reminding him of the fact, to be honest I think I'll start calling him Moses instead.'"
I think that would be wise.
There are real comparisons between how Moses saved the Israelites and how Osborne has saved the economy. 
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"I think that would be wise.
There are real comparisons between how Moses saved the Israelites and how Osborne has saved the economy.
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The last thing we need is for politicians to walk up mountains and talk to voices in the sky, look what happened when Blair and Bush did that.
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"The last thing we need is for politicians to walk up mountains and talk to voices in the sky, look what happened when Blair and Bush did that.'"
Fair point! 
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"WTF?
He changed it because he didn't like it - is that ok with you? '"
He changed it because he was an arrogant little teenage tosspot who had already decided he wanted to be PM, and because he thought it sounded a bit too Jewish to help him in that. Allegedly.
For which reason, it is entirely apt to keep remembering.
Quote Ajw71="BobbyD"Yes, because that's just how 13 year old's think.
Our next door neighbour refused to be called Rupert at a certain age, he's now called John. Probably something to do with not being remembered as a bear when he became captain of the golf club.'"
So alleged anti-semitism is okay from a teenager?
Quote Ajw71="DaveO"What is clear is you have been slapped down by none other than he governor of the Bank of England.
1. According to him 3/4m people have less work than they want (the underemployed) not because "There will always be a number of people who work part time " but because they can't find full time employment...'"
His fingers are in his ears now. You can't put facts to him. Polls, perhaps (as long as they fit his 'thoughts'). But not facts.
Quote Ajw71="Sal Paradise"... The thing is the likes of you and Mintball talk the talk about lack of opportunity for young people yet do nothing practical about elevating that position ...'"
Good that you're creating jobs. Excellent. But where is your evidence for this claim?
In the meantime, have you bothered to address those questions on ethics – or are you still finding them too difficult or are slightly embarrassed that you clearly didn't know what I did for a living, after being so certain that you did?
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No. That's the point.
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"He changed it because he was an arrogant little teenage tosspot who had already decided he wanted to be PM, and because he thought it sounded a bit too Jewish to help him in that. Allegedly.
For which reason, it is entirely apt to keep remembering.
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Abusing a 13 year old boy is a new low for you.
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You really are too precious for this interweb mallarkey
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Oh, indeedy. I've got my own little Tardis parked on the patio so that I could do it. 
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| Quote Mintball="Mintball"So alleged anti-semitism is okay from a teenager?'"
The problem with anything that's "alleged" is that it could just be simply made up so people can point and go "look, look isn't he she awful", it's a neat trick usually done by our glorious press.
So, I'll do you a deal, you come back with some evidence that a 13 year old boy wanted to change his name because he thought it was too Jewish and then I'll stop thinking that you're just an angry bag of not very much who gets their kicks from, well, just making up unpleasant things about people they don't like very much. Branding a 13 year old anti-semitic based nothing more than you don't like him. FFS. Grow up.
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| Quote BobbyD="BobbyD"The problem with anything that's "alleged" is that it could just be simply made up so people can point and go "look, look isn't he she awful", it's a neat trick usually done by our glorious press.
So, I'll do you a deal, you come back with some evidence that a 13 year old boy wanted to change his name because he thought it was too Jewish and then I'll stop thinking that you're just an angry bag of not very much who gets their kicks from, well, just making up unpleasant things about people they don't like very much. Branding a 13 year old anti-semitic based nothing more than you don't like him. FFS. Grow up.'"
GEORGE OSBORNE - AN ANTI-SEMITIC ARSEHOLE: WHEN DID GIDEON OSBORNE BECOME GEORGE OSBORNE - AND WHY?
In his sympathetic new biography of the chancellor, FT reporter Janan Ganesh says it was on "the eve of moving 'up' to St. Paul's School in 1984" that Osborne changed his name.
This has surprised 'Old Paulines' of his generation, who insist Osborne was still Gideon when he started at the school and remained so for another couple of years.
"There was no doubt that he was well into his 'career' at St. Paul's at the time," says one.
"It was a comical event, the name change, and much talked about."
As for the question of why, Ganesh says that:
"Theories abound ... Osborne has always said that he simply did not like the name, so he changed it. But it may also be that he was already set on a career in public life and feared that his baroque and rarefied name might hold him back."
In fact the reason was rather more specific, an old scholl chum tells Lord Gnome.
This friend greeted Osborne in the 'Periodicals Room' outside the Library on the first day of term with a resounding:
"Ahoy, Gid! How goes?" - only to be told that "actually, it's George now".
"Really?" said the boy. "Why's that?"
"FRANKLY" the teenage Osborne explained:
"I CAN'T SEE THE BRITISH PEOPLE ELECTING A PRIME MINISTER WITH SUCH A JEWISH FIRST NAME."
(Private Eye No.1330 22nd Dec. 2012 - January 10th 2013)
Allegedly.
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| Quote Hull White Star="Hull White Star"GEORGE OSBORNE - AN ANTI-SEMITIC great dude: WHEN DID GIDEON OSBORNE BECOME GEORGE OSBORNE - AND WHY?
In his sympathetic new biography of the chancellor, FT reporter Janan Ganesh says it was on "the eve of moving 'up' to St. Paul's School in 1984" that Osborne changed his name.
This has surprised 'Old Paulines' of his generation, who insist Osborne was still Gideon when he started at the school and remained so for another couple of years.
"There was no doubt that he was well into his 'career' at St. Paul's at the time," says one.
"It was a comical event, the name change, and much talked about."
As for the question of why, Ganesh says that:
"Theories abound ... Osborne has always said that he simply did not like the name, so he changed it. But it may also be that he was already set on a career in public life and feared that his baroque and rarefied name might hold him back."
In fact the reason was rather more specific, an old scholl chum tells Lord Gnome.
This friend greeted Osborne in the 'Periodicals Room' outside the Library on the first day of term with a resounding:
"Ahoy, Gid! How goes?" - only to be told that "actually, it's George now".
"Really?" said the boy. "Why's that?"
"FRANKLY" the teenage Osborne explained:
"I CAN'T SEE THE BRITISH PEOPLE ELECTING A PRIME MINISTER WITH SUCH A JEWISH FIRST NAME."
(Private Eye No.1330 22nd Dec. 2012 - January 10th 2013)
Allegedly.'"
I thought he wasn't worth wasting anymore of your time on but I see you jumped in rather fast with this one.
Let us believe for a second that he did in fact change his name because he didn't believe the British people would elect a prime minister with such a Jewish first name.
Anti-semitism is hatred / discrimination / prejudice toward Jews.
If the reasoning above was correct then Osborne changed his name not because [uhe[/u wanted to discriminate against Jewish people but because he thought that others might discriminate against him because of his name.
Therefore there is no anti-semitism. George Osborne can in no way be described as anti-semitic.
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| Quote Ajw71="Ajw71"I thought he wasn't worth wasting anymore of your time on but I see you jumped in rather fast with this one.
Let us believe for a second that he did in fact change his name because he didn't believe the British people would elect a prime minister with such a Jewish first name.
Anti-semitism is hatred / discrimination / prejudice toward Jews.
If the reasoning above was correct then Osborne changed his name not because [uhe[/u wanted to discriminate against Jewish people but because he thought that others might discriminate against him because of his name.
Therefore there is no anti-semitism. George Osborne can in no way be described as anti-semitic.'"
I've been offline for most of the afternoon - I'm not sad as to wait for posts to be written and jump on them as soon as. I didn't waste time on him. I googled him and found it in seconds, like BobbyD could have done but instead chose to wind up Minty in pretending she'd made it all up.
I didn't say I agree with her or believe the article, more like just showing it was out there.
Allegedly.
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| Quote Hull White Star="Hull White Star"GEORGE OSBORNE - AN ANTI-SEMITIC great dude: WHEN DID GIDEON OSBORNE BECOME GEORGE OSBORNE - AND WHY?
In his sympathetic new biography of the chancellor, FT reporter Janan Ganesh says it was on "the eve of moving 'up' to St. Paul's School in 1984" that Osborne changed his name.
This has surprised 'Old Paulines' of his generation, who insist Osborne was still Gideon when he started at the school and remained so for another couple of years.
"There was no doubt that he was well into his 'career' at St. Paul's at the time," says one.
"It was a comical event, the name change, and much talked about."
As for the question of why, Ganesh says that:
"Theories abound ... Osborne has always said that he simply did not like the name, so he changed it. But it may also be that he was already set on a career in public life and feared that his baroque and rarefied name might hold him back."
In fact the reason was rather more specific, an old scholl chum tells Lord Gnome.
This friend greeted Osborne in the 'Periodicals Room' outside the Library on the first day of term with a resounding:
"Ahoy, Gid! How goes?" - only to be told that "actually, it's George now".
"Really?" said the boy. "Why's that?"
"FRANKLY" the teenage Osborne explained:
"I CAN'T SEE THE BRITISH PEOPLE ELECTING A PRIME MINISTER WITH SUCH A JEWISH FIRST NAME."
(Private Eye No.1330 22nd Dec. 2012 - January 10th 2013)
Allegedly.'"
Oh, well, there we are conclusive proof. FFS.
Plus, if you take that statement in isolation, how the hell is it anti semitic. He's basically calling the UK electorate a bunch of bigots. Which, if you really think about it, he's that not wrong. The dogs abuse Thatcher gets for closing less mines than Wilson in the Peoples Republic of Yorkshire shows misogyny reigns over that side of the hills.
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