Re: General Election campaign : Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:18 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

We all have things in our life that we wouldn't want out there - with Corbyn its his support of the Arabs/IRA etc. If you were in Johnson's shoes with the polls standing as they are why would you take the risk what have you got to gain?

I ask again what has Corbyn ever done in his life that would suggest he is capable of running anything?

Ireland has a small majority of Protestants compared to Catholics and the Catholics breed far quicker - it is only a question of time before Sinn Fein get control of the north and then there will be a vote for unification - its inevitable nothing to do with Johnson.

If Scotland leaves it will be all down Corbyn - suicide for the Labour party because it will remove all those SNP MPs and the Tory majority will be huge - Labour will never get back in.

You say, what has Corbyn done.
He's already seen off 3 Tory leaders and although I'm no fan of his, he has more honesty in his left foot, than the man in the blue corner.
Maybe he too should have gone for the bulls41t option, something that has worked quite well for Boris, so far.

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:21 pm  

I think many in London were glad to see him leave because he lost them a fortune. How much was the garden bridge or the water cannons he bought but were never used.
He is currently under investigation due to grants provided to his pole dancing computer expert.
I think you should stand because you have certainly perfected the its not our fault gov. At the last election I heard reference to the coalition of chaos and no magic money tree. How long did it take May to go into coalition with the anti abortion DUP at a cost to the UK of 1 billion pounds.

[Mild Rover]

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Nov 28, 2019 6:27 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

He did negotiate with the EU and got the backstop removed.

Oh come on, that was hardly down to to brilliant negotiation. He just just made a different sacrifice. May rejected that deal because she is a Unionist, and he clearly isn’t to the same degree.

What would you say Johnson’s positive qualities are? Allowing for him being something of a political pragmatist, what principles and imperatives do you think guide his thinking and policies?

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:30 pm  

Mild Rover wrote:

Oh come on, that was hardly down to to brilliant negotiation. He just just made a different sacrifice. May rejected that deal because she is a Unionist, and he clearly isn’t to the same degree.

What would you say Johnson’s positive qualities are? Allowing for him being something of a political pragmatist, what principles and imperatives do you think guide his thinking and policies?

Hope you dont mind me answering for Sal but, the answer is the principle of "himself".
The guy has no principles and would sell his granny to help his own cause.

I found it quite amusing that he sent his dad and Michael Gove to the "green" debate this evening.
Apparently his diary is too full for him to want to save the planet and he's probably amusing himself with someone else, somewhere else.

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:42 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

I found it quite amusing that he sent his dad and Michael Gove to the "green" debate this evening.

You should see the state of the Tory apologists on social media trying to paint Johnson as the victim in all of this. It's phenomenal to watch. They're calling out Channel 4's 'left wing bias' for not allowing Gove to take part in a leader's debate, despite the fact that Johnson was invited, you know, as leader, but decided he had more scones to eat.

Re: General Election campaign : Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:51 pm  

King Street Cat wrote:

You should see the state of the Tory apologists on social media trying to paint Johnson as the victim in all of this. It's phenomenal to watch. They're calling out Channel 4's 'left wing bias' for not allowing Gove to take part in a leader's debate, despite the fact that Johnson was invited, you know, as leader, but decided he had more scones to eat.

Indeed, and now boris has showed us all who really is the chicken and frit one who goes running to his dad.

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:14 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

You say, what has Corbyn done.
He's already seen off 3 Tory leaders and although I'm no fan of his, he has more honesty in his left foot, than the man in the blue corner.
Maybe he too should have gone for the bulls41t option, something that has worked quite well for Boris, so far.

Really who are the 3 - Cameron was seen off due to losing Brexit due to pressure in his own party nothing to do with Corbyn, May much the same - who is the third?

Labour under him have told more lies than any other political party and his handling of the anti-Semitism issue hardly smacks of honesty. He isn't even honest enough to tell you which side of the Brexit debate he sits? All this neutral stance only works with the dedicated like you.

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:18 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Hope you dont mind me answering for Sal but, the answer is the principle of "himself".
The guy has no principles and would sell his granny to help his own cause.

I found it quite amusing that he sent his dad and Michael Gove to the "green" debate this evening.
Apparently his diary is too full for him to want to save the planet and he's probably amusing himself with someone else, somewhere else.

I have never said Boris is principled - just I would rather have him as PM than Corbyn who simply wants to implement Lansman Marxist trial on the UK.

I guarantee if Corbyn where riding high in the polls he would be taking Johnson's tack on damage limitation - sadly despite giving away everything to everybody he has no trust in the country

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:42 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Really who are the 3 - Cameron was seen off due to losing Brexit due to pressure in his own party nothing to do with Corbyn, May much the same - who is the third?

Errrrr, Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson. He recently dissolved parliament. And while there's a good chance he'll con his way back in, there's also a chance he might not.

Re: General Election campaign : Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:23 pm  

Whatever, senior tories must be heartily sick of having to rock up on news bulletins and current affairs progs to continually try and explain away bojo's various slips and off the cuff comments! Whole selection discussed on Daily Politics today!