Re: Starbucks threaten Cameron : Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:35 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

So I take that all those who have boycotted Starbucks will also be binning their Apple products - Apple's ability to siphon money off into tax havens is legendary and makes Starbucks looks like a kid with his pocket money.

Got me bang to rights there mate.
I don't do Starbucks, I don't do Apple.
Also, for example, I don't go in Tesco, I don't buy Israeli goods, I buy Palestinian olive oil ... etc etc

I know they won't miss me individually and it isn't a simple conundrum (e.g. all Israelis aren't bad people) and I shall probably get it wrong occasionally through not knowing who the baddies are.

Re: Starbucks threaten Cameron : Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:19 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

So I take that all those who have boycotted Starbucks will also be binning their Apple products - Apple's ability to siphon money off into tax havens is legendary and makes Starbucks looks like a kid with his pocket money.

I'm not personally boycotting Starbucks because, as mentioned earlier, apart from Nero when in Manchester, I don't use any of the coffee chains.

It would be somewhat difficult to boycott Apple, since it's the standard for my industry – in the majority of places where I have worked, Apple computers are what they/we work on.

I do boycott Israeli produce and have, for some years, also boycotted any vegetables from Zimbabwe, although that's now simply slipped into a pattern of buying fruit and veg seasonally, apart from the few things that we never have in the UK (chocolate, coffee, tea – yes, I know there's now one estate in the UK growing tea, in Cornwall , and citrus).

So, in many ways, less a boycotting policy and more a buy British policy for as many things as possible – certainly for fresh food and, in that case, as much as possible from independent producers.

Re: Starbucks threaten Cameron : Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:13 am  

Big Graeme wrote:

Keith wrote:

That sounds like Turkish coffee. They grind the beans up very finely, much finer than for espresso and pour hot water over it. You then drink the resulting unfiltered suspension.

Don't they sometimes add ground up figs too?
Anyway it is an acquired taste.

Sounds feasible. My cafetiere has started making its own version of Turkish coffee, time for a replacement I think.

Re: Starbucks threaten Cameron : Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:51 am  

My late mother-in-law used to buy Lyons Viennese Coffee, that had figs (or fig essence?) in it.
It used to come in a white tin with pink and/or blue lettering it.

So, I reckon that Viennese coffee might be the fig-flavoured coffee we are talking about in this thread.

Re: Starbucks threaten Cameron : Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:31 pm  

El Barbudo wrote:

My late mother-in-law used to buy Lyons Viennese Coffee, that had figs (or fig essence?) in it.
It used to come in a white tin with pink and/or blue lettering it.

So, I reckon that Viennese coffee might be the fig-flavoured coffee we are talking about in this thread.

From a supermarket? Could've been pig essence. Just sayin...

Re: Starbucks threaten Cameron : Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:25 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

So I take that all those who have boycotted Starbucks will also be binning their Apple products - Apple's ability to siphon money off into tax havens is legendary and makes Starbucks looks like a kid with his pocket money.

i'd be more concerned about the children used to build apple products in china.

Re: Starbucks threaten Cameron : Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:51 pm  

We've a coffee shop near where I live (for those of you in the Scunthorpe area, 'Coffee at 43' in Ashby - if Starbucks, Costa and Nero can get adverts on here.....) which makes the best coffee I've ever made. I'm an unashamed espresso junkie, and this tastes just like the coffee I've drunk in Italy. Strong, bitter but not burnt, served at a drinkable temperature and NOT in the smallest possible quantities - their single is around the size of a Costa double. Sorry, 'douple'. It's served with a glass of water to refresh the palette in case you find it too strong, and it's priced at 50p less than a drink in the local Costa.

So why is the place always empty? Because it's not got a brand over the door, and therefore isn't cool.

I bet they pay their taxes though.

Re: Starbucks threaten Cameron : Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:36 pm  

Simple.

Don't go and buy coffee there. Their franchise will fall and a smaller group or even local shops will replace them and pay their taxes, removing the corporate tax dodging scum.

In this scenario, the public really do have all the power, not the corporation. They don't have the public by the balls, we have theirs.

Fuçk em and let them sink. The employees will get new jobs in the coffee void created. Boycott them. Ain't hard.