[DaveO]

Re: President Obama - What A Fraud He Turned Out To Be! : Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:03 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Obama is oratorially excellent, I have heard a number of outstanding speeches, but actions speak louder than words.
American citizens living in poverty have risen under his administration!
Simplistic?
But sadly a truth.

Of course it is simplistic to suggest there is a direct link between his administration and rising US poverty. It would be like saying the global financial crisis of 2008 never happened and made no contribution to this and increasing poverty was all down to deliberate policies similar to those being enacted by the UK government now that you could realistically argue will push people into poverty.

Re: President Obama - What A Fraud He Turned Out To Be! : Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:15 am  

DaveO wrote: Of course it is simplistic to suggest there is a direct link between his administration and rising US poverty. It would be like saying the global financial crisis of 2008 never happened and made no contribution to this and increasing poverty was all down to deliberate policies similar to those being enacted by the UK government now that you could realistically argue will push people into poverty. Perhaps I'm just disillusioned by leaders of all political persuasions, in what are meant to be leaders of the richest countries in the world, in the 21st century, still unable to make basic provisions for the poorest in their respective societies. You can maybe excuse that Dave, perhaps you are a Foodbank contributor? I can't! And if you think it's only the t0ssers cutting benefits (you know, the ones with the least) in this country, think again. http://www.globalresearch.ca/poverty-in-the-u-s-a-nearly-50-million-americans-on-food-stamps/5328986 Shocking. http://www.globalresearch.ca/six-million-in-the-us-with-no-income-but-food-stamps/16853

DaveO wrote: Of course it is simplistic to suggest there is a direct link between his administration and rising US poverty. It would be like saying the global financial crisis of 2008 never happened and made no contribution to this and increasing poverty was all down to deliberate policies similar to those being enacted by the UK government now that you could realistically argue will push people into poverty. Perhaps I'm just disillusioned by leaders of all political persuasions, in what are meant to be leaders of the richest countries in the world, in the 21st century, still unable to make basic provisions for the poorest in their respective societies. You can maybe excuse that Dave, perhaps you are a Foodbank contributor? I can't! And if you think it's only the t0ssers cutting benefits (you know, the ones with the least) in this country, think again. http://www.globalresearch.ca/poverty-in-the-u-s-a-nearly-50-million-americans-on-food-stamps/5328986 Shocking. http://www.globalresearch.ca/six-million-in-the-us-with-no-income-but-food-stamps/16853

[DaveO]

Re: President Obama - What A Fraud He Turned Out To Be! : Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:46 am  

WIZEB wrote:

Perhaps I'm just disillusioned by leaders of all political persuasions, in what are meant to be leaders of the richest countries in the world, in the 21st century, still unable to make basic provisions for the poorest in their respective societies.

I don't disagree with that at all but I think that is a slightly different issue to linking the increase in poverty to one particular administration. I'll be simplistic now and suggest in the USA the increased incidence of poverty has more to do with the consequences of the financial crash and world recessions than it does here where things like bedroom taxes and benefit caps are a direct assault on the poor.

I don't really know if benefits have been cut under Obama in a similar way but if they have I'd bet my house it was down to Republican's wringing concessions out of the Democrats to get any legislation through.

Regardless of that there is still a problem as you say the richest countries in the world still have leaders who say we can't afford to make basic provisions.

The problem is people believe them. The propaganda works

And also we can't vote for a government that will change tack anyway and change priority. There is no credible alternative and the right have won the argument re benefits cheats and so on.

Re: President Obama - What A Fraud He Turned Out To Be! : Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:54 am  

With growing numbers of UK citizens turning to foodbanks, it really does take a special kind of stupid to tweet this:

David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron

This is the menu for the #G8UK dinner. I’ll chair a discussion on tax, trade, transparency and Syria at 830 tonight

[DaveO]

Re: President Obama - What A Fraud He Turned Out To Be! : Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:00 am  

cod'ead wrote:

With growing numbers of UK citizens turning to foodbanks, it really does take a special kind of stupid to tweet this:

David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron

This is the menu for the #G8UK dinner. I’ll chair a discussion on tax, trade, transparency and Syria at 830 tonight

Has anyone on twitter pointed this out to him?

Re: President Obama - What A Fraud He Turned Out To Be! : Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:02 am  

cod'ead wrote:

With growing numbers of UK citizens turning to foodbanks, it really does take a special kind of stupid to tweet this:

David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron

This is the menu for the #G8UK dinner. I’ll chair a discussion on tax, trade, transparency and Syria at 830 tonight

It should read brazen shin of beef.

Re: President Obama - What A Fraud He Turned Out To Be! : Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:06 am  

I hope Cameron chokes on his food and everyone else leaves him to.

Re: President Obama - What A Fraud He Turned Out To Be! : Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:12 am  

cod'ead wrote:

With growing numbers of UK citizens turning to foodbanks, it really does take a special kind of stupid to tweet this:

David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron

This is the menu for the #G8UK dinner. I’ll chair a discussion on tax, trade, transparency and Syria at 830 tonight

CallmeDave took Sam out to Pizza Express before meeting Putin.
He left a 50 quid tip.
That's about 110% of his bill.

You could say it's generous.
But, if he thinks staff are underpaid, why doesn't he increase the minimum wage?

Re: President Obama - What A Fraud He Turned Out To Be! : Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:04 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

With growing numbers of UK citizens turning to foodbanks, it really does take a special kind of stupid to tweet this:

David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron

This is the menu for the #G8UK dinner. I’ll chair a discussion on tax, trade, transparency and Syria at 830 tonight

So, because we have a few unfortunates who somehow have slipped through the Social Security safety net, we all should head down to Aldis? And what exactly is the problem with this menu? It's a perfectly adequate, if slightly mundane choice for the Great and the Good.

Would the Comrades be happier to see something microwaveable from Tesco's Value line being dished up?

Come the revolution we may all have to eat mushy peas, but until then, I for one will still enjoy a bit of culinary satisfaction.

Re: President Obama - What A Fraud He Turned Out To Be! : Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:05 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

With growing numbers of UK citizens turning to foodbanks, it really does take a special kind of stupid to tweet this:

David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron

This is the menu for the #G8UK dinner. I’ll chair a discussion on tax, trade, transparency and Syria at 830 tonight

Looks like our pub menu. I'm sure the French can share another joke about awful British food. Honestly, an apple f*****g crumble or cheese and buscuits? Did they eat at a Harvester?