Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:40 am  

DaveO wrote:

...On the M56 you get a lot of trucks heading to Holyhead top go to Ireland and often the ones with foreign number plates are the ones doing this. Or so it seems.

I have noticed, on other motorways, Irish-registered lorries going much faster than others and have occasionally wondered whether Irish lorries are not subject to the same speed-governing.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:37 am  

Horatio Yed wrote:

You can still put the responsibility in the drivers hands and limit the idiocy.

Say, if you have an accident proven to be 100mph or more, insurance doesn't pay out for your write off. (if you live)

Porsche drivers will think twice about being super silly.

Oi leave us Porsche people out of it, at least Porsches are actually built to be able to handle at speed, it's your hot hatches and 'suped' up citroen Saxons that are the problem, and don't get me started on suits in Audis



Fwiw I dont think a raise to 80 would make much difference

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:43 am  

christopher wrote:

Oi leave us Porsche people out of it, at least Porsches are actually built to be able to handle at speed, it's your hot hatches and 'suped' up citroen Saxons that are the problem, and don't get me started on suits in Audis



Fwiw I dont think a raise to 80 would make much difference

Porsches ... lovely cars.
But even Porsche don't build good drivers, good driving isn't simply handed to you as a gift when you buy one.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:50 am  

El Barbudo wrote:

Porsches ... lovely cars.
But even Porsche don't build good drivers, good driving isn't simply handed to you as a gift when you buy one.

Agreed, I actually drive mine sensibly as it would cost me a fortune if I was heavy footed. I very rarely speed but I do like a nice blast on a country B road but don't venture over 60 much as it feels fast enough on a winding road anyway.

Although one of my biggest annoyances is people driving at 30 in a 60 when the road and conditions mean that 50-60 is perfectly safe.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:57 am  

christopher wrote:

Agreed, I actually drive mine sensibly as it would cost me a fortune if I was heavy footed. I very rarely speed but I do like a nice blast on a country B road but don't venture over 60 much as it feels fast enough on a winding road anyway.

Although one of my biggest annoyances is people driving at 30 in a 60 when the road and conditions mean that 50-60 is perfectly safe.

Near where I live, the limit on the main road varies between 20, 30, 40 and 50mph.
I get really narked with those who do 35-40 in the 50mph zone ... and who then carry on at the same speed through all the lower speed limits.
Maybe these dick-eads think it averages-out.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:11 pm  

christopher wrote:

Agreed, I actually drive mine sensibly as it would cost me a fortune if I was heavy footed. I very rarely speed but I do like a nice blast on a country B road but don't venture over 60 much as it feels fast enough on a winding road anyway.

Although one of my biggest annoyances is people driving at 30 in a 60 when the road and conditions mean that 50-60 is perfectly safe.

Then you must be a prat of the first order. Nobody is, nor should be, obliged to travel at or near the speed limit on a country B road and your arrogance is astonishing. If I am driving along a country B road at 50-60 and there is a car ahead going at 30, it is hardly a major mechanical or intellectual challenge to safely pass it. Why on earth should I be even slightly "annoyed"? FFS.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:11 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Then you must be a prat of the first order. Nobody is, nor should be, obliged to travel at or near the speed limit on a country B road and your arrogance is astonishing. If I am driving along a country B road at 50-60 and there is a car ahead going at 30, it is hardly a major mechanical or intellectual challenge to safely pass it. Why on earth should I be even slightly "annoyed"? FFS.

I'm not a prat at all, on a clear B road there is no need to drive at half the speed limit. You drive as slow as you like, I'll just over take you if safe of course. I don't really get that annoyed its a mild irritation that's all.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:53 pm  

christopher wrote:

I'm not a prat at all, on a clear B road there is no need to drive at half the speed limit.

Look, the speed limit is just irrelevant to the issue. There is no "need" to drive at or near the speed limit either. "Need" don't enter into it. It's a matter of personal choice.

What if someone is on a touring holiday, and is taking their time, to take in the sights and scenery?

What if they are relatively new, or perhaps elderly, drivers and don't feel comfortable and safe in their ability to negotiate winding country roads at 60 mph?

What if they just aren't in any hurry?

christopher wrote:

You drive as slow as you like, I'll just over take you if safe of course. I don't really get that annoyed its a mild irritation that's all.

You aren't getting away with that, you said "one of my biggest annoyances" and now you're backtracking. And anyway you have no business being "irritated" either.

ir·ri·tate
/ˈiriˌtāt/
Verb
Make (someone) annoyed, impatient, or angry.

Such a person is doing nothing wrong. They have just as much right to pass along the highway at 30 as you have at your speed. It isn't a major annoyance, or even a mild irritation, to a reasonable motorist, who respects other road users.

You sound as if you need some anger management. WHY does it "irritate" you?

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:17 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Look, the speed limit is just irrelevant to the issue. There is no "need" to drive at or near the speed limit either. "Need" don't enter into it. It's a matter of personal choice.

What if someone is on a touring holiday, and is taking their time, to take in the sights and scenery?

What if they are relatively new, or perhaps elderly, drivers and don't feel comfortable and safe in their ability to negotiate winding country roads at 60 mph?

What if they just aren't in any hurry?

You aren't getting away with that, you said "one of my biggest annoyances" and now you're backtracking. And anyway you have no business being "irritated" either.

Such a person is doing nothing wrong. They have just as much right to pass along the highway at 30 as you have at your speed. It isn't a major annoyance, or even a mild irritation, to a reasonable motorist, who respects other road users.

You sound as if you need some anger management. WHY does it "irritate" you?

You don't know me, it's you who seems quite angry.

I am a very courteous and careful driver, I don't get very annoyed at anything my use of language was probably a bit strong but everyone's annoyance levels are different.

If someone's on a touring holiday and going slow I'll pass them if safe, in fact it can be quite good fun dropping a gear and overtaking (as long as if safe)

My level of irritation might be a lot smaller than yours and I can be as irritated as I like if that's ok with you, I don't speed nor do I do anything dangerous.

I also note you didn't take the other poster who agreed with me to task.

Re: Motorway Speed Limits Revisited : Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:23 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

What if someone is on a touring holiday, and is taking their time, to take in the sights and scenery?

Well they need to park the car and get out. You can't be driving safely and taking in the sights at the same time