Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:59 pm  

Scoence has proved a geocentric earth which i'll prove in my next post.there's over 20 experiments. Like you've just said Butcher facts are facts doesn't matter who refutes them I'll provide them its problem solved then according to your way of thinking.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:13 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Flat Stanley doesn't believe half the things he says. . .

Hmmm i think i do. What are you suggesting ?

I believe in a Geocentric plane. I hate the term FE, it isn't completely flat as in pancake flat due to elevations of earth. Plane fits perfectly. As in level of existence

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:18 pm  

TheButcher wrote:

In my post I was referring to Flat-earthers rather than the other conspiracy topics contained in this thread and thought it reasonable that when dealing with a subject such as the shape of the earth and planets, scientific methods are the only real methods of forming conclusions on this topic. How else can you prove otherwise regardless of your view?

You're quite right that it's the fallible human element in any system that can break it down, science included. Look at the scientists for hire to say whatever you want about Climate Change, for example. The difference is, facts are facts, and once shown to be correct it doesn't matter how many voices say otherwise. Facts can be added to and changed to reflect the gain of knowledge over a subject over time. It doesn't mean the original fact was wrong, just that understanding improves. The theory of relativity for example has been added to, and the Theory of evolution grown since Darwin first penned it to the point of it being one of the strongest theories in Science.

I'm not putting Science on a pedestal, because there's areas of science that poke hornets nests. But it is still the most reliable way for humanity to understand and make sense of reality.

My post has little bearing on other, ground and earth-based conspiracies such as JFK or false flag discussion. That wasn't my point. Flat earth ideas can only be confirmed or thrown-out with science.

I see your point. But using science as a pin to burst the arguments of someone who is being less than honest about his own faith in those arguments is about as futile as using the Ouja Board or tea leaves.

As a famous fictional supercomputer once said:

"Strange game. The only winning move is not to play...

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:21 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

Hmmm i think i do. What are you suggesting ?

I believe in a Geocentric plane.

I believe that you believe it.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:21 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

I see your point. But using science as a pin to burst the arguments of someone who is being less than honest about his own faith in those arguments is about as futile as using the Ouja Board or tea leaves.

As a famous fictional supercomputer once said:

"Strange game. The only winning move is not to play...

Care to elaborate ?

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:41 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

Scoence has proved a geocentric earth which i'll prove in my next post.there's over 20 experiments. Like you've just said Butcher facts are facts doesn't matter who refutes them I'll provide them its problem solved then according to your way of thinking.

This is a perfect example of how Scoence is wrong.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:44 pm  

Stand-Offish wrote:

This is a perfect example of how Scoence is wrong.

i'm on to it numnuts, its a long post.

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:48 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

Scoence has proved a geocentric earth which i'll prove in my next post.there's over 20 experiments. Like you've just said Butcher facts are facts doesn't matter who refutes them I'll provide them its problem solved then according to your way of thinking.

Why experiment, when any person can travel around the world themselves, in person, and prove to themselves that we live on a globe?

Anyway, to save you the trouble of these odd "experiments", you ignored another simple question. You have told me there's a Great ice Wall around the flat earth and none shall pass. I have asked you to explain the following numerous stations run by numerous countries in, er, Antarctica. Including one at the non-existent South Pole. Are you saying that every single person, country and organisation that staff these bases are all liars?

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:37 pm  

It's an oblate spheroid

Flattened at the poles with bulges around the equator

Re: Terrorism in Paris again. : Mon Dec 21, 2015 7:54 pm  

FLAT STANLEY wrote:

i'm on to it numnuts, its a long post.

I suppose a woooosh! Is out of order then?