Re: General Election 8th June : Mon May 22, 2017 12:06 pm  

Looks like a major u turn/ climb down by may regarding paying for social care. It's made her look extremely weak, soon as she announced this proposal last week it had disaster stamped all over it.
Hope she performs better than this when brexit negotiations start.

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon May 22, 2017 12:08 pm  

DGM wrote:

I assume Sal has himself done a full costing of Labour's manifesto to be able to describe it as "not deliverable" and "madness".

It probably went something like this.


1 +1 = 2 but Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour party wrote this so the answer can't be right. This isn't deliverable!!

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon May 22, 2017 12:10 pm  

DGM wrote:

I assume Sal has himself done a full costing of Labour's manifesto to be able to describe it as "not deliverable" and "madness".

It would appear that Sal is the type of Tory voter that the tax-dodging Lynton Crosby and Mrs May thought they could rely on to see them home; repeat the hypnotic 'strong and stable' line as many times as possible, avoid the general public, focus on Brexit, and deliver a manifesto with few policies and no costs - because Mr Corbyn is unelectable, so a landslide is virtually guaranteed.

Staggering arrogance, that could well backfire spectacularly.

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon May 22, 2017 12:16 pm  

Backwoodsman wrote:

Looks like a major u turn/ climb down by may regarding paying for social care. It's made her look extremely weak, soon as she announced this proposal last week it had disaster stamped all over it.
Hope she performs better than this when brexit negotiations start.

Strong & Stable U-turns.

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon May 22, 2017 12:53 pm  

DGM wrote:

Strong & Stable U-turns.

Quite correct, hopefully just affecting the few and not the many

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon May 22, 2017 1:00 pm  

She is known as Submarine May for a reason. She sits on the fence until she sees which way to jump to be on the winning side. When she actually has to commit to something the facade collapses.

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon May 22, 2017 1:45 pm  

bren2k wrote:

It would appear that Sal is the type of Tory voter that the tax-dodging Lynton Crosby and Mrs May thought they could rely on to see them home; repeat the hypnotic 'strong and stable' line as many times as possible, avoid the general public, focus on Brexit, and deliver a manifesto with few policies and no costs - because Mr Corbyn is unelectable, so a landslide is virtually guaranteed.

Staggering arrogance, that could well backfire spectacularly.

I see the Tories as the lesser of two evils - they are all as bad as each other

Angela Rayner was on this morning in the same sentence said the removal of tuition fees would be £9bn and then said it would be £11.2bn which is it?

Labour have just missed out the cost of re-nationalising all those industries - I wonder why!!

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon May 22, 2017 1:56 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I see the Tories as the lesser of two evils

I see the Tories as just evil.

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon May 22, 2017 4:49 pm  

tigertot wrote:

I see the Tories as just evil.

That's one way of looking at it - MPs are like the SL nowhere near the quality of yester year

Re: General Election 8th June : Mon May 22, 2017 5:43 pm  

The tax imposed on the British public is nearing an all time record. students pay hefty fees for university and social care cost are being paid by the elderly. Yet we are as a nation still year on year accumulating debt.
Looks like a lot of money is wasted. Also the often used phrase governments money is being used. The government has no money its the taxpayers money.