Re: General Election campaign : Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:22 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Your response was to a point about a no deal exit. The elecorate did not, and would never, vote for no deal Brexit. It's of interest only to the very rich, the super-stupid or the very xenophobic.

Are you seriously suggesting the UK electorate didn't realise there was the possibility of a No deal exit at the last GE? Even for you that is an idiotic comment

Re: General Election campaign : Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:53 am  

IR80 wrote:

Cracks appearing in your wishful thinking mind.

You really haven't got a clue, have you.
The Corona virus could do us all and COULD certainly see governments fall if thy dont come up with the correct response.

The comments by Johnson on "nobody losing out", sounded great at the time but, were ill measured.
There is some serious, serious cack to happen around the world and while any government has to and will protect essential services, the offers of help to small and large business, wont go further than allowing a small delay in paying over tax receipts and possibly help with loans. However, this wont save any business in serious strife.
The 1000's of cafes, coffee shops, nail bars, which are the only functioning parts of the high street, will disappear like ice cubes in a teapot.
Travel companies are screwed and major manufacturing too, will be affected.

Unfortunately, you dont appear to have seem to have considered this before making yet another of your usual, ill thought out quip's

Re: General Election campaign : Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:11 am  

History will look back on the recent giveaway budget bonanza, with no meaningful provision for the impact of this crisis on business or workers, and wonder what the actual f**k BJ and his insane clown posse were thinking - or indeed if they were thinking at all.

Re: General Election campaign : Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:34 am  

bren2k wrote:

History will look back on the recent giveaway budget bonanza, with no meaningful provision for the impact of this crisis on business or workers, and wonder what the actual f**k BJ and his insane clown posse were thinking - or indeed if they were thinking at all.

I wonder how many out of the 20,000 new police officers have been trained - we could need them when the rioting starts

Re: General Election campaign : Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:21 pm  

bren2k wrote:

History will look back on the recent giveaway budget bonanza, with no meaningful provision for the impact of this crisis on business or workers, and wonder what the actual f**k BJ and his insane clown posse were thinking - or indeed if they were thinking at all.

I thought they provided £30bn - or was I mistaken? If you listen to labour the government should increase SSP so nobody is financially impacted by being off sick - where is that money going to come from - McDonald when asked simply said well the government will have to find it!!

Re: General Election campaign : Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:56 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I thought they provided £30bn - or was I mistaken? If you listen to labour the government should increase SSP so nobody is financially impacted by being off sick - where is that money going to come from - McDonald when asked simply said well the government will have to find it!!

We have the lowest SSP in the EU27 - if you get 95 quid a week, and your rent is 200 quid a week - where do you go from there?

My original point was that we are in an unprecedented world crisis; in the middle of that, the Govt announced a 600 billion spending spree, and did nothing beyond a bit of tinkering to support the economic and social fallout of the virus. They will be judged harshly for that - given that they've demonstrated that they can very easily find money for other things.

Re: General Election campaign : Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:13 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I thought they provided £30bn - or was I mistaken? If you listen to labour the government should increase SSP so nobody is financially impacted by being off sick - where is that money going to come from - McDonald when asked simply said well the government will have to find it!!

As the government throws unfunded spending around like plates at a Greek wedding, Sal is somehow with (presumably) a straight face still demanding that other parties explain how they would pay for their priorities.
You couldn't make it up - does no-one else get to shake that fabled Tory magic money tree?

Re: General Election campaign : Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:29 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

As the government throws unfunded spending around like plates at a Greek wedding, Sal is somehow with (presumably) a straight face still demanding that other parties explain how they would pay for their priorities.
You couldn't make it up - does no-one else get to shake that fabled Tory magic money tree?

What are you talking about - the Tories said they would balance the books on operational spending and borrow for capital spending - which is what the budget suggested. If we are to follow the French model then we need to put upwards of £250bn into the economy just for the corona which seems like a good idea - not keen on the likes of Branson who every time he gets into difficulty he wants a hand out - time he stuck his hand in his pocket too.

Whilst the virus is not a great thing in the short term I do think it will re-define how we work - property assets might not be quite the asset they are cracked up to be?

Re: General Election campaign : Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:33 am  

bren2k wrote:

We have the lowest SSP in the EU27 - if you get 95 quid a week, and your rent is 200 quid a week - where do you go from there?

My original point was that we are in an unprecedented world crisis; in the middle of that, the Govt announced a 600 billion spending spree, and did nothing beyond a bit of tinkering to support the economic and social fallout of the virus. They will be judged harshly for that - given that they've demonstrated that they can very easily find money for other things.

I am not disagreeing with you - if commerce/industry is to survive this then the government will have to input some monies - but it can't only be the government that does it - companies also have to do their bit - use some of their cash reserves to support the long term outlook of their business. BA have 9bn in cash - should the government be putting money into a business such as that. In the end like the banking crisis it will be ordinary people who pay through further austerity. That isn't equitable if companies simply come out of the other end with same cash piles?

Re: General Election campaign : Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:09 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

BA have 9bn in cash - should the government be putting money into a business such as that. In the end like the banking crisis it will be ordinary people who pay through further austerity. That isn't equitable if companies simply come out of the other end with same cash piles?

BA has already said it doesn't need a bail-out - unlike our friend Mr Branson, who is begging for £7.5bn, whilst forcing his staff to take 8 weeks unpaid leave.