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Re: Leveson - squeaky bum time? : Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:19 pm  
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I think you may hang onto him come the next election.
Had a decent majority last time round and although the Lib/Dems are gonna get a good spanking I think he'll probably be safe.



He's the only MP I've ever seen in this constituency, and I've lived here for all but 10 of 56 years, who puts himself about and gets involved in local issues, the colour of his flag is irrelevant when he makes himself so accessable to anyone who needs a voice in parliament, in fact he was better in opposition when he was REALLY keen to hang his hat on an issue and kick the government.
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Re: Leveson - squeaky bum time? : Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:20 pm  
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He's the only MP I've ever seen in this constituency, and I've lived here for all but 10 of 56 years, who puts himself about and gets involved in local issues, the colour of his flag is irrelevant when he makes himself so accessable to anyone who needs a voice in parliament, in fact he was better in opposition when he was REALLY keen to hang his hat on an issue and kick the government.


So if he was National Front you would have no issue, as long as (s)he was accessible?
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Re: Leveson - squeaky bum time? : Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:52 pm  
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So if he was National Front you would have no issue, as long as (s)he was accessible?


What a ridiculous question, are you drunk ?
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Re: Leveson - squeaky bum time? : Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:55 pm  
You said, "the colour of his flag is irrelevant when he makes himself so accessable"

I am merely asking, whether if his 'flag' was the national front it would still be irrelevant?
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Re: Leveson - squeaky bum time? : Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:58 pm  
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You said, "the colour of his flag is irrelevant when he makes himself so accessable"

I am merely asking, whether if his 'flag' was the national front it would still be irrelevant?


No.

Anything else I can help you with ?
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Re: Leveson - squeaky bum time? : Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:54 pm  
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So if he was National Front you would have no issue


I guess they must still be around somewhere then ...
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Re: Leveson - squeaky bum time? : Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:45 am  
Could this be Cameron's most embarassing U-turn so far?

After publicly proclaiming he was walking away from cross-party talks on implementing Leveson's recommendations and was willing to go to a vote in Parliament today, it looks like a deal has been reached that's more like the Clegg/Miliband suggestion.

At least he waited until after his party's Spring conference.
Could this be Cameron's most embarassing U-turn so far?

After publicly proclaiming he was walking away from cross-party talks on implementing Leveson's recommendations and was willing to go to a vote in Parliament today, it looks like a deal has been reached that's more like the Clegg/Miliband suggestion.

At least he waited until after his party's Spring conference.
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Re: Leveson - squeaky bum time? : Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:44 am  
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Could this be Cameron's most embarassing U-turn so far?

After publicly proclaiming he was walking away from cross-party talks on implementing Leveson's recommendations and was willing to go to a vote in Parliament today, it looks like a deal has been reached that's more like the Clegg/Miliband suggestion.


Is it? Unless it is underpinned by law isn't it Clegg and Miliband who have climbed down?

The reportiong the BBC you link to says this:

The BBC's Nick Robinson said Labour and the Liberal Democrats appeared to have accepted a watered-down version of their demands for full legal underpinning of a royal charter establishing a new watchdog.

Ms Miller said: "We're very close to a deal. What has been accepted by all the main parties is that the prime minister's royal charter should go ahead, and more importantly we've stopped Labour's extreme version of the press law."

So its a watered down version according to Nick Robinson and Labour has been "stopped" according to Miller. Now I know Nick Robinson is a Tory and Miller obviously wants to paint the picture she does but just how far has Cameron moved toward the Labour/ Lib Dem position?
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Could this be Cameron's most embarassing U-turn so far?

After publicly proclaiming he was walking away from cross-party talks on implementing Leveson's recommendations and was willing to go to a vote in Parliament today, it looks like a deal has been reached that's more like the Clegg/Miliband suggestion.


Is it? Unless it is underpinned by law isn't it Clegg and Miliband who have climbed down?

The reportiong the BBC you link to says this:

The BBC's Nick Robinson said Labour and the Liberal Democrats appeared to have accepted a watered-down version of their demands for full legal underpinning of a royal charter establishing a new watchdog.

Ms Miller said: "We're very close to a deal. What has been accepted by all the main parties is that the prime minister's royal charter should go ahead, and more importantly we've stopped Labour's extreme version of the press law."

So its a watered down version according to Nick Robinson and Labour has been "stopped" according to Miller. Now I know Nick Robinson is a Tory and Miller obviously wants to paint the picture she does but just how far has Cameron moved toward the Labour/ Lib Dem position?
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Re: Leveson - squeaky bum time? : Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:01 am  
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Is it? Unless it is underpinned by law isn't it Clegg and Miliband who have climbed down?

The reportiong the BBC you link to says this:

The BBC's Nick Robinson said Labour and the Liberal Democrats appeared to have accepted a watered-down version of their demands for full legal underpinning of a royal charter establishing a new watchdog.

Ms Miller said: "We're very close to a deal. What has been accepted by all the main parties is that the prime minister's royal charter should go ahead, and more importantly we've stopped Labour's extreme version of the press law."

So its a watered down version according to Nick Robinson and Labour has been "stopped" according to Miller. Now I know Nick Robinson is a Tory and Miller obviously wants to paint the picture she does but just how far has Cameron moved toward the Labour/ Lib Dem position?
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/isabel-hardman/2013/03/harriet-harman-and-maria-miller-both-claim-victory-in-leveson-talks/

Its as clear as mud ATM.

I will say however that Cameron has come back to the table (Even at arms length) and one has to wonder why?
Perhaps because he has realised he is going to be defeated when every single none Tory MP are lined up against him.
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Re: Leveson - squeaky bum time? : Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:50 am  
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http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/isabel-hardman/2013/03/harriet-harman-and-maria-miller-both-claim-victory-in-leveson-talks/

Its as clear as mud ATM.

I will say however that Cameron has come back to the table (Even at arms length) and one has to wonder why?
Perhaps because he has realised he is going to be defeated when every single none Tory MP are lined up against him.

And a few Tory MPs to be fair.

Camoron had no chance of winning a vote on the proposal he walked away from the table with. He must have known that at the time. What's more interesting is why Labour and the Lib Dems agreed to negotiate further when they already had a winning hand.
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