Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Thu May 21, 2020 9:15 pm  

Good to see all the labour councils denying the local kids an education, despite the science.

This is why the nation sees them as a joke and they lost the last election by a landslide

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Thu May 21, 2020 9:24 pm  

What science, that is the problem, the government keep it to themselves. I suppose the new app will be the difference, oh wait something else promised but not delivered.

Re:H Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Thu May 21, 2020 10:12 pm  

Steph Curry wrote:

Good to see all the labour councils denying the local kids an education, despite the science.

This is why the nation sees them as a joke and they lost the last election by a landslide

Those who voted Tory pretty much have blood on their hands.

Re: Re:H Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Thu May 21, 2020 10:54 pm  

Willzay wrote:

Those who voted Tory pretty much have blood on their hands.

I have no political agenda,but your comment is just plain stupid.

The Tories won the election,because many traditional Labour voters switched to Conservative in a vote that was pure and simply about Brexit.
The electorate were essentially given a poop binary choice.
Even members of my own family that had voted Labour for 40 years refused to vote Labour in the GE,as they simply didn't want another Brexit referendum,which is what Corbyn wanted.

Re: Re:H Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Fri May 22, 2020 7:25 am  

TURFEDOUT wrote:

I have no political agenda,but your comment is just plain stupid.

The Tories won the election,because many traditional Labour voters switched to Conservative in a vote that was pure and simply about Brexit.
The electorate were essentially given a poop binary choice.
Even members of my own family that had voted Labour for 40 years refused to vote Labour in the GE,as they simply didn't want another Brexit referendum,which is what Corbyn wanted.

And they got what they wanted (or did they? They all wanted out, just not sure they wanted the same kind of out).
Anyway, they got their "Let's get Brexit done", the rest of the policies, who cares eh?

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Fri May 22, 2020 8:08 am  

Steph Curry wrote:

Good to see all the labour councils denying the local kids an education, despite the science.

This is why the nation sees them as a joke and they lost the last election by a landslide

And if you were a teacher, mixing with "x" number of kids, from a different range of backgrounds etc, would you be confident of avoiding the virus.
Not to mention how you get a class of 30+ kids to be socially distant in a room that was already cramped for space

There are two primary reasons for trying to get kids back to school, without adequate planning and the main one is to allow their parents to return to work.

You will notice that child minders cant yet re open, apparently it's not safe yet but, schools can - do you see the contradiction in the advice
Or that, its safe for teachers to "look after" the kids but, those same children cant visit their grandparents ? in case they pass something on to people in the "vulnerable" group

So its ok to have a few hundred kids at school but, not allow one or two to visit people that are "healthy"

With the consistent mis leading of the public and endless spinning of the truth by this Tory government, would you put your trust in them

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Fri May 22, 2020 8:51 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

And if you were a teacher, mixing with "x" number of kids, from a different range of backgrounds etc, would you be confident of avoiding the virus.
Not to mention how you get a class of 30+ kids to be socially distant in a room that was already cramped for space

There are two primary reasons for trying to get kids back to school, without adequate planning and the main one is to allow their parents to return to work.

You will notice that child minders cant yet re open, apparently it's not safe yet but, schools can - do you see the contradiction in the advice
Or that, its safe for teachers to "look after" the kids but, those same children cant visit their grandparents ? in case they pass something on to people in the "vulnerable" group

So its ok to have a few hundred kids at school but, not allow one or two to visit people that are "healthy"

With the consistent mis leading of the public and endless spinning of the truth by this Tory government, would you put your trust in them

Schools have had 8 weeks to plan a return for kids to school, many have been open so they will have experience of teaching children in these circumstances. How many teachers have gone down with Covid as a direct result of working in schools that are already open?

To compare child minders to state schools is laughable as you well know.

Given the vast majority of deaths have occurred within the elderly community is quite right that this group is protected so most people can see why keeping kids away from their grandparents forms part of a logical strategy to protect the elderly.

I completely agree with you about the quality of the message - but we don't live in a nanny state - as much as you would like and people have to take individual responsibility for their actions but there also needs to be consequences to those actions

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Fri May 22, 2020 9:11 am  

Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:

What science, that is the problem, the government keep it to themselves. I suppose the new app will be the difference, oh wait something else promised but not delivered.

The same science that has shown the rest of Europe that they can open schools.

But hey, who cares, LA dinosaurs know best.

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Fri May 22, 2020 9:37 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

And if you were a teacher, mixing with "x" number of kids, from a different range of backgrounds etc, would you be confident of avoiding the virus.
Not to mention how you get a class of 30+ kids to be socially distant in a room that was already cramped for space

There are two primary reasons for trying to get kids back to school, without adequate planning and the main one is to allow their parents to return to work.

You will notice that child minders cant yet re open, apparently it's not safe yet but, schools can - do you see the contradiction in the advice
Or that, its safe for teachers to "look after" the kids but, those same children cant visit their grandparents ? in case they pass something on to people in the "vulnerable" group

So its ok to have a few hundred kids at school but, not allow one or two to visit people that are "healthy"

With the consistent mis leading of the public and endless spinning of the truth by this Tory government, would you put your trust in them

I think we should take advice from Boris and his educational roots on this subject.
Let's get them back in at the same time as Eaton or cambridge?
They have class sizes of around 12 so they should be the first to go back?

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Fri May 22, 2020 9:41 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Schools have had 8 weeks to plan a return for kids to school, many have been open so they will have experience of teaching children in these circumstances. How many teachers have gone down with Covid as a direct result of working in schools that are already open?

To compare child minders to state schools is laughable as you well know.

Given the vast majority of deaths have occurred within the elderly community is quite right that this group is protected so most people can see why keeping kids away from their grandparents forms part of a logical strategy to protect the elderly.

I completely agree with you about the quality of the message - but we don't live in a nanny state - as much as you would like and people have to take individual responsibility for their actions but there also needs to be consequences to those actions

Theyve been pretty much open straight through, dealing with 40 kids not 400

And as for this
"Given the vast majority of deaths have occurred within the elderly community is quite right that this group is protected so most people can see why keeping kids away from their grandparents forms part of a logical strategy to protect the elderly."

Thought your perception was that all over 70s just want to get out and live their lives?
So let em get on with it then, let em see their grandkids, children, family, they're part of the generation that "just want to get on with it".

Which is it?