If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet depreciate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground. They want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters. This struggle may be a moral one; or it may be a physical one; or it may be both moral and physical; but it must be a struggle.
He wants to show that one largely insignificant man in the 21st century can prove the Earth is flat with evidence from YouTube videos. Forget the space agencies, forget science, forget logic, forget mathematics, forget years of hard work, YouTube is where the truth can really be found.
I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right!
Petty authoritarians aren’t man enough to challenge the actions of a person face to face; instead they incite a forum of rumour, innuendo and half truths, and impose rude sanctions to discourage those who dare question fairness.
See, most everyone knows that there is a permanent base at the South Pole, and many people do go there, there is as much evidence as any reasonable person would
See, most everyone knows that there is a permanent base at the South Pole, and many people do go there, there is as much evidence as any reasonable person would
... Its you two what instigate trouble. Period.[/i][/b]
Rubbish, and you know it. All we ever do is ask you to consider questions, and all you ever di is fail to answer.
Your current kneejerk of instead wailing on with copious cut'n'pastes to show how put-upon you are is just your latest smokescreen, to avoid having to consider let alone answer questions which you refuse to think about.
But, I am a petient enough sort of chap, and so let me repeat the question you've been swerving for weeks:
If the Earth is flat, why does the moon look upside down from Australia?
At this stage, I now know that you have no answer for this. You still have to stick to your group delusion that the Earth is not a globe, though, and so you do, even though this simple question cannot be answered if the Earth really was flat.
What you did do was (surprise surprise) link to yet another piece of YT drivel. On this occasion I did you the courtesy of watching it although I was not surprised to see that it was by a person who is either pretty stupid, so doesn't understand the question, or else is a deliberate attempt to provide those with weak brains and limited analytical faculties with fake "ammunition".
Let me tell the audience what your video link shows. It shows a flat plate with a picture hanging from a ceiling. It then demonstrates that if you go to one end of the room and look back at the picture, the top of the person's head is, from your perspective, to your left.
And if you go to the other end of the room, the top of the person's head is, from your perspective, to your right.
And this, the author risibly claims to think, is "the answer"!
The flat plate is a cylinder. The image is on the bottom of the cylinder. The effect you would need is to be able to see the TOP of the flat plate, i.e. invert the plate so the image is on the TOP side and we could see the BOTTOM side.
This obviously does not happen.
If a giant were to take a massive replica of that plate to the Moon, and affix it to what we perceive as the "bottom" of the Moon, then people in Australia would see this replica plate as being, from their perspective, at the "top" of the moon.
That is the effect you need to be able to explain, Stan. And I know it drives you mad that you can't. So there you go. You are on your own. Your link is exposed for arrant and childish half-baked nonsense.
Do you agree, or have you got a different explanation now that I've exposed the previous bunkum?
Surely in Stan's world, every moon would be a full moon as there'd be nothing to block out the sun's light? Unless the sun was underneath the disk, but how could it be, because there's always a part of the Earth in sunlight.
Think about the crescents - what's causing that shadow? And if it isn't the Earth, then what is it?
Each hemisphere has longer days in it's Summer. So if we take the Northern Hemisphere as being the 'middle' of Stan's disk world, and the Southern being the outer bit, then over the course of a year, the orbit of the sun within the Earth's firmament will move outwards and inwards?
Surely the Southern Hemisphere Summer, Australians would see the sun effectively shooting across the sky at a ridiculous speed as to get round the whole circumference of the disk in a day?
Gee Whiz, I'm in demand. Vexing posts about me when i'm here, and when i'm not here.... Obsessed or what.If i was to respond to all the obsessive posts it'd take me ages. I''ll try to reply in due course, all posts which contain a flex and vex ad hominem nature will be ignored from now on. due to me being in such high demand.
Sandro IL Terrorist Wrote: Dear Mr. Flat Stanley,
You have never replied to any of my previous questions.
I would like to ask, what are you seeking to achieve with your postings?
Many thanks,
Sandro IL Terrorista.
I'm not trying to achieve anything honestly. Most conversations i have especially on this thread are instigated by two obvious obsessed tag teaming ambushers who vex their cranial insults in most sentences. How can you debate with such childlike behaviour, Yeah sometimes i bite back in retaliation but i'm never vitriolic and use brain insulting comments. I may have a varied outlook on life but does it deserve or warrant this Ad Hom abuse. No it certainly doesn't.So from now all posts asking for my views which contain, Ad Hom, vitriol, and taking the piece, will be ignored. Simples. So the answer to your question i want to achieve in not conversing with obsessed persona insulting reprobates.
He wants to show that one largely insignificant man in the 21st century can prove the Earth is flat with evidence from YouTube videos. Forget the space agencies, forget science, forget logic, forget mathematics, forget years of hard work, YouTube is where the truth can really be found.
I'm not trying to prove the Earth is flat, it is flat. I'm proving that we don't live on a spinning ball. Try trusting your perceptions. I can instantly remember you showing me your Concorde pictures with a beautiful flat straight horizon from 50.000 feet. Curvature doesn't exist and this is what your perceptions tell you. Start trusting your God given senses. A spade is a spade. Forget, science, maths, logic. and hard work, blinking heck. Okay then show me the Maths, Science, logic and hard work that disproves a Geocentric Earth in your own words please.....As you highly proclaim.... Good luck...I'm awaiting....Tick Tock....