Re: Brexit Anyone? : Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:09 am  

Not racist Xenophobes? http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cri ... -1-7987145 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cri ... -1-7987511 Does Boris believe in Leave? http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/pol ... -1-7987734

Not racist Xenophobes? http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cri ... -1-7987145 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cri ... -1-7987511 Does Boris believe in Leave? http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/pol ... -1-7987734

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:18 am  

Biff Tannen wrote:

You may not agree with it, but Remainers need to start accept the result now. you lost the vote which we were all told many times to be once in a generation by all at the top. there is no going back. and the with all the party in fighting and crucial negotiations that will be going on for the foreseeable the country needs to get behind whoever is to lead us into our future, which will be out of the EU.

Not quite - the nauseating Farage himself said in the run-up, when it looked like a close Remain win, that we should go again.

"The question of a second referendum was raised by Mr Farage in an interview with the Mirror in which he said: "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the Remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it."

Cameron didn't help matters by dismissing that suggestion, presumably because he was so sure of a win, but the fact remains that with a majority of just 1.9% and a groundswell of buyers remorse, the country is now divided - literally in the case of Scotland - and since the predictions made by the much-maligned 'experts' are starting to come true, and the Leave campaign have dramatically dialled back on their main campaign issues, it would be in the best interests of the UK to revisit the process. It was, after all, an advisory referendum, so it's not a done deal. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are more twists to this before the button is pushed to trigger Article 50.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:16 am  

bren2k wrote:

Not quite - the nauseating Farage himself said in the run-up, when it looked like a close Remain win, that we should go again.

"The question of a second referendum was raised by Mr Farage in an interview with the Mirror in which he said: "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the Remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it."

He did, but it would have been shrugged off as we all know. Cameron and Osborne would be gloating and it would be claimed the people had spoken and business as usual. There would have still been a lot of unhappy people and protests of course, as there are now with the remain camp but there wouldn't have been another referendum.

If article 50 isn't enforced and the Brexit camp screwed over then this country will be in bigger poop with civil unrest and revolt than it ever would be were it to be enforced imo.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:22 am  

EHW wrote:

not an awful lot different between that and the latest laughable blustering from some European bureaucrats about scrapping English as one of the languages they will use in the EU in future.

But that's perfectly sensible! Without the UK, only Ireland has English as a main language. Why would the other 400 million people carry on using English?

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:22 am  

Biff Tannen wrote:

He did, but it would have been shrugged off as we all know. Cameron and Osborne would be gloating and it would be claimed the people had spoken and business as usual. There would have still been a lot of unhappy people and protests of course, as there are now with the remain camp but there wouldn't have been another referendum.

If article 50 isn't enforced and the Brexit camp screwed over then this country will be in bigger poop with civil unrest and revolt than it ever would be were it to be enforced imo.

Civil Unrest, by whom, pensioners and the poorly educated?

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:23 am  

crumpledshorts wrote: Not racist Xenophobes? http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cri ... -1-7987145 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cri ... -1-7987511 I'll give you the first one, although nobody knows the full story by the sound of the article, but the second one is classic media twisting in action. The outcome of telling three youths like that would have been the same if they had been told to mind their language by anyone, it's just the nature of the reply that would have been different. Morons like this would have singled out anything to have a go back whether it be age, gender, race or if the person happened to be wearing glasses. I'd hazard a guess had it been me telling them to pipe down, the reply wouldn't have been "thank you kind sir for pointing out the inappropriate nature of our language on a packed tram, have a good day", I'd have more likely got a "f off you speccy ****". Incidents like this happen all the time, it's just now the media have an angle to come at it from and stir it up even more.

crumpledshorts wrote: Not racist Xenophobes? http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cri ... -1-7987145 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/cri ... -1-7987511 I'll give you the first one, although nobody knows the full story by the sound of the article, but the second one is classic media twisting in action. The outcome of telling three youths like that would have been the same if they had been told to mind their language by anyone, it's just the nature of the reply that would have been different. Morons like this would have singled out anything to have a go back whether it be age, gender, race or if the person happened to be wearing glasses. I'd hazard a guess had it been me telling them to pipe down, the reply wouldn't have been "thank you kind sir for pointing out the inappropriate nature of our language on a packed tram, have a good day", I'd have more likely got a "f off you speccy ****". Incidents like this happen all the time, it's just now the media have an angle to come at it from and stir it up even more.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:30 am  

For those who are interested in reality, you may note that there is now open discussion in France and Germany of how the City will have its "passporting" removed as a central plan of -ANY- post-Brexit settlement.

The City's financial services industry is the largest single export we have, and we're running record trade deficits already.

If we do this, it is going to go, and our whole economy with it.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:34 am  

crumpledshorts wrote:

Civil Unrest, by whom, pensioners and the poorly educated?

oh dear again, how will we get down from that high horse?

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:50 am  

Roy Haggerty wrote:

If we do this, it is going to go, and our whole economy with it.

Ah yes, but at least we've taken back control; of what, no one seems quite able to say, but at least the recession will be an *English* recession, with *English* job losses and an *English* programme of public sector spending cuts that will make George Osborne's austerity measures look like all your Christmas mornings rolled into one.

Facts don't seem to be very welcome in the Farage-esque post-Brexit gloatfest that some people on here seem to be peddling; but well done for trying.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:52 am  

Biff Tannen wrote: oh dear again, how will we get down from that high horse? No high horse, a statement of simple facts. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... ed-old-an/

Biff Tannen wrote: oh dear again, how will we get down from that high horse? No high horse, a statement of simple facts. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... ed-old-an/