Re: Tony Clubb - Charged Grade F : Mon May 10, 2021 2:55 pm  

shinymcshine wrote:

The context is that Clubb is saying that Savelio isn't Polynesian, noting that Savelio was born in NZ with a Samoan father, albeit moved to Warrington in his early years.

So I'm guessing you'd be more upset if someone said your weren't English or you weren't a proper Yorkshireman, as that's what essentially Clubb has said, and therefore why it's taken within the remit of racist abuse.

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
why is having your feelings hurt, worse than having a brick smashed on your head.? I would sooner have a few insults thrown at me, i can laugh those off, but a brick would certainly hurt me more. The world has gone soft. The punishment has been given, time to move on.

Re: Tony Clubb - Charged Grade F : Mon May 10, 2021 3:16 pm  

Some might say you fail to recognise the fundamentals of discriminatory behaviours, but hey, they're only words, so there's no need for a response.

Re: Tony Clubb - Charged Grade F : Mon May 10, 2021 3:53 pm  

shinymcshine wrote:

Some might say you fail to recognise the fundamentals of discriminatory behaviours, but hey, they're only words, so there's no need for a response.

Exactly

[Durham Giant]

Re: Tony Clubb - Charged Grade F : Mon May 10, 2021 7:42 pm  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote:

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
why is having your feelings hurt, worse than having a brick smashed on your head.? I would sooner have a few insults thrown at me, i can laugh those off, but a brick would certainly hurt me more. The world has gone soft. The punishment has been given, time to move on.

Yet you cannot move on because you keep coming back to it.
You know nothing about Savellios background. Maybe he was bullied and taunted for not being British or white enough when he was living in Warrington. Maybe he experienced that drip drip of racism every day. Maybe that is why words can be so damaging. How often did you get called whitey or white friend when you were growing up. Maybe that is why the idea of a few verbals mans little to you. Regardless of wether you like it racist attitudes are now less acceptable.

So go back to playing war games and pretending you are Monty. Oh and by the way stop buying into the Dunkirk was a victory it was a massive defeat.

Re: Tony Clubb - Charged Grade F : Mon May 10, 2021 8:18 pm  

Durham Giant wrote:

Yet you cannot move on because you keep coming back to it.
You know nothing about Savellios background. Maybe he was bullied and taunted for not being British or white enough when he was living in Warrington. Maybe he experienced that drip drip of racism every day. Maybe that is why words can be so damaging. How often did you get called whitey or white friend when you were growing up. Maybe that is why the idea of a few verbals mans little to you. Regardless of wether you like it racist attitudes are now less acceptable.

So go back to playing war games and pretending you are Monty. Oh and by the way stop buying into the Dunkirk was a victory it was a massive defeat.

Yes it was, but those who came through it, such as my dad, didn’t just sit there and cry about it, they recovered and were more determined than ever to put things right. That’s one of the reasons today, you can post on forums such as this. I don’t have to play war games, better men than I do that for me, you, and all the Woke leftists who cry if anyone says boo. You and everyone else should be grateful for those who went through the horror of Dunkirk, and the war.

[Durham Giant]

Re: Tony Clubb - Charged Grade F : Mon May 10, 2021 9:02 pm  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote:

Yes it was, but those who came through it, such as my dad, didn’t just sit there and cry about it, they recovered and were more determined than ever to put things right. That’s one of the reasons today, you can post on forums such as this. I don’t have to play war games, better men than I do that for me, you, and all the Woke leftists who cry if anyone says boo. You and everyone else should be grateful for those who went through the horror of Dunkirk, and the war.

So I guess your dad was one of those who voted Labour after the war for social change such as the NHS.

Funny how you think leftists cry if anyone says boo. Yet it was all those leftists fighting against Franco in Spain and the blackshirts on cable street whilst those you support now were busy supporting the fascists

Re: Tony Clubb - Charged Grade F : Tue May 11, 2021 2:52 am  

Durham Giant wrote:

So I guess your dad was one of those who voted Labour after the war for social change such as the NHS.

Funny how you think leftists cry if anyone says boo. Yet it was all those leftists fighting against Franco in Spain and the blackshirts on cable street whilst those you support now were busy supporting the fascists

Thread derailed.
I was threatened with a holiday for that.
Double standards mate.

[Durham Giant]

Re: Tony Clubb - Charged Grade F : Tue May 11, 2021 7:47 am  

Cokey wrote:

Thread derailed.
I was threatened with a holiday for that.
Double standards mate.

Good point well made,
I apologise for that although not for challenging those apologists who are defending clubb

Re: Tony Clubb - Charged Grade F : Tue May 11, 2021 2:32 pm  

Dunkirk Spirit wrote:

Yes it was, but those who came through it, such as my dad, didn’t just sit there and cry about it, they recovered and were more determined than ever to put things right. That’s one of the reasons today, you can post on forums such as this. I don’t have to play war games, better men than I do that for me, you, and all the Woke leftists who cry if anyone says boo. You and everyone else should be grateful for those who went through the horror of Dunkirk, and the war.

“woke" is defined as: "Originally: well-informed, up-to-date.”

Does that mean the right aren’t well informed?

Re: Tony Clubb - Charged Grade F : Tue May 11, 2021 4:13 pm  

Willzay wrote:

“woke" is defined as: "Originally: well-informed, up-to-date.”

Does that mean the right aren’t well informed?

I'm well informed.
It is best not to have a conscious bias or an unconscious bias.
Be a non-binary non-gender specific specimen who is able to be transracial.
Do not speak,even to friends or relations in case another person is offended.
If anyone is really naughty they don't get punished,anyway,because the bleeding hearts don't like the bad people being punished.
If I'm not well - informed it's because I wasn't taught correctly be the ever-changing guidelines made up by people being paid a fortune for continually changing the guidelines.
These are the over-privileged people who have attended universities and can't get proper jobs but just alter semantics to suit their prejudices,biased agenda.
We should all take lessons from the USA the experts on race relations.( I may not be serious here and I am in no way associated with Warrington )
Staying on thread - Maybe Clubb ain't completely in the wrong.
I am now off to study whether Polynesians are more of a persecuted minority than the white folk living in England.
I may be gone for some time.If a university or made up organisation with political motives,or one of those in the USA where one of the females acquires lots of mansions,I am available to take payment...