Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:12 am  

Cronus wrote:

:lol: You are, of course, having a giggle.

Aren't you?

The only "solution" most of those on the opposite benches want is to revoke Article 50, or at best, a second referendum, and to remove the government. Almost without exception, they've lied and lied that they will "honour and respect" the result of the referendum.

At the same time they inflict defeat after defeat in the Commons to damage the government. Can't blame them for that, but there are bigger things at play - such as honouring the referendum, which they all promised to respect. There's a word for behaviour like that.

Labour have simply monitored the polls and public opinion and changed their policy with 2 goals: 1 - damage the government, and 2 - get a shot at No.10 (until the last few weeks, of course).

Of course, I was having a giggle but, Corbyn is similar to Johnson, in that he just wants a go in the "big char" at No 10 Downing Street and is "happy" to do whatever he thinks necessary to get there.

Therefore, much of what is going on with Labour, is to oust Johnson, rather than deal with Brexit - similar to Johnson and his cronies ousting Mrs May - ironic that Johnson gets so upset by it all

FWIW, I still dont believe that Crobyn is a fan of the EU and he never has been and IF Labour were to gain power, which would only be for a short while anyway, Labour too would be a shambles of a ruling party.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:21 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Finally how is that a host of countries not in the EU and smaller/bigger than the UK can quite happily survive trading with the EU on WTO terms without suffering the economic Armegedon you are suggesting the UK will experience outside of the EU?

Come on then, name 'em.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:25 am  

tigertot wrote:

Prior to privatisation punctuality was c90% (not Northern Rail as they did not exist). As I informed you punctuality on Northern Rail is now 50-60% (using Network Rail’s own KPI -https://www.networkrail.co.uk/who-we-are/how-we-work/performance/railway-performance/ ) or 80% if we use the next measure of 3 minutes.
Even someone as dim as your mate IR80 can work out which figure is the higher.

So. Next. Please show any of the stuff I have made up.

Bump. Still waiting Sal.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:06 am  

tigertot wrote: Come on then, name 'em. I think that I may have accidentally unmasked Sal, my very own Tory MP, Andrea Jenkyns: https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/andrea-jenk ... deo-501634 It may be coincidence but, she couldn't name the raft on nations that currently trade with the EU on WTO terms, either/ It's just more Tory lies, something that seems to be reaching epidemic proportions. They are taking the nation for mugs, while lining their own pockets, quelle surprise !

tigertot wrote: Come on then, name 'em. I think that I may have accidentally unmasked Sal, my very own Tory MP, Andrea Jenkyns: https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/andrea-jenk ... deo-501634 It may be coincidence but, she couldn't name the raft on nations that currently trade with the EU on WTO terms, either/ It's just more Tory lies, something that seems to be reaching epidemic proportions. They are taking the nation for mugs, while lining their own pockets, quelle surprise !

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:03 am  

Apart from Cronus, who puts up a creditable performance, the right wing on here are nothing more than regurgitated gutter press unsubstantiated cliches. Unfortunately, a large amount of the population quote the same.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:19 am  

tigertot wrote:

Apart from Cronus, who puts up a creditable performance, the right wing on here are nothing more than regurgitated gutter press unsubstantiated cliches. Unfortunately, a large amount of the population quote the same.

Don't be downhearted. For some inspiring chats why not go on the new social media craze called (I think) Facialbooks. Genuinely impressive and calm conversations taking place between people of great reason and intellect.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:22 am  

Pumpetypump wrote:

Don't be downhearted. For some inspiring chats why not go on the new social media craze called (I think) Facialbooks. Genuinely impressive and calm conversations taking place between people of great reason and intellect.

Unlike some, I genuinely have better things to do with my life & don't actually like this sort of thing. This, & the right wing sponsored HYS on the BBC news site, is enough to destroy any faith I have in the English.

[Pumpetypump]

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:48 am  

This place is a relative oasis of calm. Facebook can start to make you thumb through the Dignitas brochure.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:18 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Come on then, name 'em.

USA, most of Africa, China, Russia would you like a few more

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:38 pm  

Who trades with the EU under WTO rules? https://fullfact.org/europe/who-trades- ... wto-rules/

Who trades with the EU under WTO rules? https://fullfact.org/europe/who-trades- ... wto-rules/