Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:54 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

It would be very interesting to see how many of the lefties on here who work in businesses solely reliant on the government for their firms’ revenue?

Why? Are you going to give advice on tax avoidance, employing your wife up to tax threshold even though they don't work there, company car, fiddling pensions, expense accounts, private health, gym membership, screwing your employees?

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:50 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Why? Are you going to give advice on tax avoidance, employing your wife up to tax threshold even though they don't work there, company car, fiddling pensions, expense accounts, private health, gym membership, screwing your employees?

My tax affairs are so simple that is difficult to fiddle not that I would want to. I claim what are legitimate business expenses - I pay my taxes on time, I pay my VAT on time. I make a good living and as such feel I make a reasonable contribution in the form of various taxes to support those less fortunate than myself. By the way my wife doesn't work for me, my car is my own - I claim mileage, I don't go to a gym and my employees are very contented with their terms and conditions. If you would like some testimonials no problem.

Now over to you - I take it you work either for the government or for an organisation that is completely funded by the government? Which is probably why you are so touchy?

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:15 pm  

This debate is simply going round in circles I will ask you remainers this question:

"Do you want to be part of a transnational super state which you don't understand run by people you don't know who you didn't elect and who you cannot get rid of but who have the power to impose on you laws on you that you haven't discussed/agreed and have little or no power to block or overturn - do you really think that's a great idea"

Nobody on here and in wider general public knows who their MEP is - why because they are simply attending a very expensive talking shop - they have no power that's in the hands of the Council - Tusk's mob and the Commission - Junker's mob.

What is very interesting is the rise of the Nu Class the intelligentsia - these are those wedded to government funding/control/regulation in one form or another. More regulation more non-jobs for them. These are people who took non subjects at university e.g. Classics, French Literature, Archaeology - their whole existence relies on more government intervention. We can see these very people posting on here. I guarantee a big chunk of the remainers will be climate change enthusiasts - people with real jobs haven't got time for this clap trap.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:18 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Now over to you - I take it you work either for the government or for an organisation that is completely funded by the government? Which is probably why you are so touchy?

Wrong on both counts. The fiddles that I listed are those I have experienced or am aware of, either as an employee or as my Dad had his own business. I also work with numerous consultants who enjoy those trappings or run their own companies.
I get a fixed salary & pension. No bonus or any other perk apart from statutory sick pay or holidays, ever. I am at work about 45-50 hours a week; when I am not at work I am contactable at all times. I have had 2 weeks off work sick in 20 years; that was following an operation; I worked from home every day of that 2 weeks apart from the the day of the operation.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:37 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

"Do you want to be part of a transnational super state which you don't understand run by people you don't know who you didn't elect and who you cannot get rid of but who have the power to impose on you laws on you that you haven't discussed/agreed and have little or no power to block or overturn - do you really think that's a great idea."

That would have made a spiffing question on the referendum ballot paper.

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Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:42 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

This debate is simply going round in circles I will ask you remainers this question:

"Do you want to be part of a transnational super state which you don't understand run by people you don't know who you didn't elect and who you cannot get rid of but who have the power to impose on you laws on you that you haven't discussed/agreed and have little or no power to block or overturn - do you really think that's a great idea"

Yes I want a hard remain that no one voted for. Join the Euro, be instrumental in creating an EU army and generally be subsumed within a United States of Europe.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:51 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

These are people who took non subjects at university e.g. Classics, French Literature, Archaeology We can see these very people posting on here.

I left school at 15 & have worked since, apart from 2 redundancies. If I had gone to Uni I would have done a macho degree like Science.

I guarantee a big chunk of the remainers will be climate change enthusiasts - people with real jobs haven't got time for this clap trap.

My macho Science degree would enable me to say with a fair degree of certainty that you are an ignorant fool. The epitome of gammon man. As I don't have a degree I am unable to comment.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:37 pm  

tigertot wrote:

I left school at 15 & have worked since, apart from 2 redundancies. If I had gone to Uni I would have done a macho degree like Science.
My macho Science degree would enable me to say with a fair degree of certainty that you are an ignorant fool. The epitome of gammon man. As I don't have a degree I am unable to comment.

I think that his/her comment on climate change gives the game away slightly, typical WUM.
Anyone who says that they "haven't got time for this climate change clap trap" rally does need to open their eyes.

Strangely, it's only by being part of a larger group of nations that will ever tackle the major issues.

Britain's actions in isolation will affect very little on the world stage - not that you would expect too many of the "leave" brigade to realise this.
Even if the scientist are only 50% right, there does need to be a fundamental shift in how we all live our lives and if they are 100% right, we're probably done for already.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:48 am  

tigertot wrote:

I left school at 15 & have worked since, apart from 2 redundancies. If I had gone to Uni I would have done a macho degree like Science.
My macho Science degree would enable me to say with a fair degree of certainty that you are an ignorant fool. The epitome of gammon man. As I don't have a degree I am unable to comment.

yay, more insults, at least you are consistent in embarassing yourself.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:43 pm  

IR80 wrote:

yay, more insults, at least you are consistent in embarassing yourself.

I dont think that calling someone in climate change denial, ignorant, is an insult.
It's actually way more embarrassing that someone could believe that there isn't a problem.