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Re: "freedom day" : Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:21 am  
WIZEB wrote:
Here's one.
Because all Tories are mostly despicable, disgusting, self-serving tw@ts.
*See Tony Blair.

Still nothing positive to say about Labour then?
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Re: "freedom day" : Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:38 am  
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This is an excellent post - maybe I am older than you but Wilson caved in to unions when he won power in 1974 and Blair just spent and spent on the public sector until he ran out of money - they had to wreck everyone's pension to keep spending and the less said of the gold sale the better. Blair was more interested in his own role after he left - his attitude to the EU suggested he was after the EU Commissioner's job in a big way.

I do think yesterday's stuff shows his utter contempt for UK citizens - it was an absolute disgrace.

On freedom day - I don't a huge change other than kids can go to nightclubs - mask wearing will be widely used - social distancing went out of the window months ago. What I cannot understand is there are a lot of people up in arms about masks but seem to think its OK that people shouldn't get vaccinated - you can't have it both ways


I think that you are taking a very optimistic view on the loosening of restrictions.

Mass events, sports, gigs etc without social distancing will allow the virus to spread at will, although with 50,000+ new cases each day, "we" have already given up on controlling the spread of the virus.
Interestingly, if our double jabbed Health Minister can still contract the virus then, it's reasonable to suggest that everyone can and then it's just a matter of how serious the cases are.
With overseas travel also opening up, albeit, in an extremely chaotic and unpredictable way, the likelihood of importing a further new strain(s) seems inevitable and again, it's how we and the vaccinations cope with this.

As for government contempt, this has been a recurring theme, although they are not alone in their selfish attitudes.
The pandemic brings out the best in some and the worst in others.

Good to see Kier Starmer at the Challenge Cup Final though, Bojo & Co were noticeably absent when the spotlight isn't so bright.
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Re: "freedom day" : Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:52 pm  
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I currently have two staff of both. Double jabbed both quite Ill with what is described as “ a really bad and painful flu “

That’s a big worry, we have 3 neighbours households isolating at the moment. All family members who have the virus have had both vaccinations. I am beginning to think the vaccinations aren’t as efficient as claimed. If that’s the case we are all up the creek without a paddle.
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Re: "freedom day" : Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:25 pm  
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Here we have the classic, tragic legacy of Trumpian politics. Even when the team you support is proven corrupt and incompetent and deceitful they want you to not even think anyone could do better.

What a toxic mess.

Toxic mess ? Check out the killing Kelly documentary. How Campbell has the audacity to question Tory lies (of which they are many) they pale into insignificance compared with the Iraq war.
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Re: "freedom day" : Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:46 pm  
No vaccine ever stops you catching a virus. I don't think we should be opening nightclubs, or stop wearing masks, but I get the impression many are in favour of going back into lockdown, and that this virus will eventually disappear. It seems clear to me that this isn't going anywhere, so there will be a time where we will just have to get (for lack of a better word) get on with it, but at what point is that acceptable? Once furlough ends, the real economic impact will be realised, so I think the reintroduction of restrictions will probably do more long-term damage.
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Re: "freedom day" : Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:47 pm  
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Toxic mess ? Check out the killing Kelly documentary. How Campbell has the audacity to question Tory lies (of which they are many) they pale into insignificance compared with the Iraq war.

What about what about what about.

Good grief.
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Re: "freedom day" : Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:07 pm  
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What about what about what about.

Good grief.

Oh the irony :lol:
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Re: "freedom day" : Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:22 pm  
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I think that you are taking a very optimistic view on the loosening of restrictions.

Mass events, sports, gigs etc without social distancing will allow the virus to spread at will, although with 50,000+ new cases each day, "we" have already given up on controlling the spread of the virus.
Interestingly, if our double jabbed Health Minister can still contract the virus then, it's reasonable to suggest that everyone can and then it's just a matter of how serious the cases are.
With overseas travel also opening up, albeit, in an extremely chaotic and unpredictable way, the likelihood of importing a further new strain(s) seems inevitable and again, it's how we and the vaccinations cope with this.

As for government contempt, this has been a recurring theme, although they are not alone in their selfish attitudes.
The pandemic brings out the best in some and the worst in others.

Good to see Kier Starmer at the Challenge Cup Final though, Bojo & Co were noticeably absent when the spotlight isn't so bright.


How many people died from Covid last week - 150 - how many people died of heart failure last week 3,000 let's get things into perspective. Vaccines were never ever going to stop you getting the virus but they will stop you having a bad dose in most cases. If we were going to import a new strain we would have by now - it is highly unlikely that a new strain will be a vaccine buster - look at India now?

I still come back to the point of all the outcry about masks but vaccine dodgers get a free pass
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Re: "freedom day" : Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:32 pm  
With the daily number of new cases exceeding 50,000 then it is more likely that any new variation will be home produced.
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Re: "freedom day" : Mon Jul 19, 2021 5:04 pm  
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Still nothing positive to say about Labour then?


Nope, there a bunch of numpties like the pillock you voted into No10.
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