Re: Brexit Anyone? : Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:15 pm  

DGM wrote: :lol: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/soci ... 1124117827 http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/ ... 1113117081 Nailed it. Maybe they read some of the guff written on this thread. “Apart from immigrants. He’s very negative about them.” To quote my favourite fictional small-minded Little Englander, abso-bloody-exactly.

DGM wrote: :lol: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/soci ... 1124117827 http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/ ... 1113117081 Nailed it. Maybe they read some of the guff written on this thread. “Apart from immigrants. He’s very negative about them.” To quote my favourite fictional small-minded Little Englander, abso-bloody-exactly.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:00 pm  

Exiled down south wrote:

Let's not forget you are representing the minority. Shout as loud as you like.

This is what keeps me warm at night.

Let them vent... at the end of the day we won and we will be out of the EU in the not too distant future.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:25 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

This is what keeps me warm at night.

Let them vent... at the end of the day we won and we will be out of the EU in the not too distant future.

You really are out of touch with real world. Never mind in your little world the sun always shines and you at least must be perfect.
Enjoy, you deserve yourself.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:54 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

This is what keeps me warm at night.

Let them vent... at the end of the day we won and we will be out of the EU in the not too distant future.

Did you pinch that poster from the Jehovah's Witnesses?

Oh joy, the "In the future when all's well" line.

So in your cosy nest of joy, do you think we're heading for Hard Brexit?

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:00 am  

Why do people panic about Brexit? The overreaction is embarrassing. Only 27 countries are in it, its if which are small and economically weak, Britain managed to get by for centuries before we joined the wretched thing, People need some sense of proportion and self-respect.








weak.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:54 am  

Leaguefan wrote:

You really are out of touch with real world.

And your 'real world' consists of what?

A world where an unelected and untouchable body decides non-negotiable laws and policy for the UK?
A world where the utterly fookin stoopid concept of 'freedom of movement' between hugely uneven economies is a good idea?
A world where bananas are too bent?
A world where getting all 28 countries to ratify anything is only marginally more successful than Warrington winning a Grand Final?
A world where the UK sends £13 billion a year to Brussels and receives only £4.5 billion in return?
A world where the great experiment of the Euro has brought nothing but economic misery?
A world where the creeping entry of Turkey into EU is anything but a looming disaster?
A world where the snowflake loony left have grown far too accustomed to this bonkers ideology and can't see it for the idiocy it is?

If that's your world you're welcome to it.

The bottom line is we would never have joined the EU in its current form. Yes, some tough times are ahead but extricating ourselves from this mire was always going to be a rocky road.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:14 am  

bren2k wrote:

It's already been pointed out to you, in very simple terms, that immigrants are net contributors to the UK economy; for the hard of thinking, that means it's an actual fact that they contribute more than they take out - like your friend who comes to the restaurant and chips in the same proportion of the bill as you, even though he didn't have a starter or any wine...

Yes, we've all heard that, many, many times. Very few people genuinely doubt most EU immigrants seek work. But it's not quite as simple as that. Millions of immigrants in such a short space of time was always going to be a strain, both on our infrastructure and our communities.

The crux of the issue is that we can't control the numbers. If you can't control the numbers, you can't plan effectively. If you can't plan effectively, how do you know how many schools, hospitals, roads and houses to build? How many doctors and nurses do we need? How many police? How many assets do local councils need to invest in?

Some of these projects take years, even decades to bring to fruition and it's no wonder our infrastructure hasn't been able to expand in line with the incoming numbers. Simple as that.

The fact is that too many people from smaller, weaker and failing countries are heading to the UK (and other more successful economies). I don't blame them for that, I blame the EU. Sensible, structured immigration can be a wonderful asset to any country. Uncontrolled freedom of movement is just plain idiotic, especially amongst such uneven economies.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:50 am  

Dally wrote:

Why do people panic about Brexit? The overreaction is embarrassing. Only 27 countries are in it, its if which are small and economically weak, Britain managed to get by for centuries before we joined the wretched thing, People need some sense of proportion and self-respect.








weak.

Of course we got by prior to joining the EU.
For many of the centuries that you speak about, the world was somewhat less developed than it is today and it was easy for the British poeple to sail around the world and colonise some of these countries and we were a major player in the world.
Thankfully, the world has moved on and many of the Commonwealth nationa are ridding themselves of our rule, Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc.

The Brexit vote was born out of fear and wanting to put 2 fingers up to the state and Farage in some respects had an easy "sell".

Following the Banking crisis we have had the best part of 7 years of austerity, which was down to the Financial sector running wild and gambling with the futures of most of the population.
Ironically, this sector will become more important as we go it alone as we put our trust in the very people that nearly bankrupt half of the nation.

In difficult times, it's usually wise to stick with your friends and allies but we are doing the opposite.





Foolish

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:05 am  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

Did you pinch that poster from the Jehovah's Witnesses?

Oh joy, the "In the future when all's well" line.

So in your cosy nest of joy, do you think we're heading for Hard Brexit?

Hard Brexit / Soft Brexit are just woolly phrases made up remainers because of the negative connotations associated with the former.

There is no 'hard' or 'soft' brexit. There is just brexit and everything that comes with that.

Re: Brexit Anyone? : Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:15 pm  

Ajw71 wrote:

Hard Brexit / Soft Brexit are just woolly phrases made up remainers because of the negative connotations associated with the former.

There is no 'hard' or 'soft' brexit. There is just brexit and everything that comes with that.

I think the hard or soft has more to do with the style of negotiations and just where our "red lines" are.
For instance, we could allow some free movement in return for free access to the single market or we could just say "we're out" and go with the full consequences of this.
Send all the immigrants home, return all of our ex pats, refuse any NHS treatment for "johnny foreigner" so, of course there are many options.
Call them hard, soft or, whatever you like but there are plenty of different ways for this to play out.