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Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:31 pm**

bren2k wrote:

The world is proving in 2016 that democracy is not always a good thing; a benevolent dictatorship would probably be a better arrangement.

I'll go for that but only if I'm allowed to be Emperor.

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 7:52 pm**

King Street Cat wrote:

The lunatic fringe of the liberal left won't know where to direct their outrage with that one.

Na mate, they already tarred the white working class as the villains, just ask Penny Toynbee. It the 'whitelash' apparently. :CRAZY:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... not-pander

King Street Cat wrote:

The lunatic fringe of the liberal left won't know where to direct their outrage with that one.

Na mate, they already tarred the white working class as the villains, just ask Penny Toynbee. It the 'whitelash' apparently. :CRAZY:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... not-pander

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:03 pm**

Sheldon wrote:

Earlier? They brought it out to early, trump timed the fbi email dump to perfection.

Those podesta emails were staggering. Especially the ones with code words such as "hot dog". How on earth Hilary Clinton wasn't investigated further is beyond me. Mind you, people used to hark on about pedophiles within the BBC for years before it all came to light only to be shot down
Regards

King James

Posted: **Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:06 pm**

LeighGionaire wrote:

Na mate, they already tarred the white working class as the villains, just ask Penny Toynbee. It the 'whitelash' apparently. :CRAZY:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... not-pander

Take anything Polly says with a pinch of salt, she's the archetypal champagne socialist. What she fails to acknowledge, either by design or righteous ignorance, is that the "right on" social causes she supports long ago got hijacked by commercially driven, rent seeking, policy entrepreneurs looking to develop revenue streams out of narratives of perpetual grievance and entitlement. Polly's fellow travellers have no interest in trying to resolve the issues they espouse, if any of their causes actually do improve they simply find an innovative new interpretation to justify ongoing rent seeking. The"whitewash" is no such thing, people have just wised up that even the self-proclaimed "good guys" are on the gravy train.

LeighGionaire wrote:

Na mate, they already tarred the white working class as the villains, just ask Penny Toynbee. It the 'whitelash' apparently. :CRAZY:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... not-pander

Take anything Polly says with a pinch of salt, she's the archetypal champagne socialist. What she fails to acknowledge, either by design or righteous ignorance, is that the "right on" social causes she supports long ago got hijacked by commercially driven, rent seeking, policy entrepreneurs looking to develop revenue streams out of narratives of perpetual grievance and entitlement. Polly's fellow travellers have no interest in trying to resolve the issues they espouse, if any of their causes actually do improve they simply find an innovative new interpretation to justify ongoing rent seeking. The"whitewash" is no such thing, people have just wised up that even the self-proclaimed "good guys" are on the gravy train.

Posted: **Sat Nov 12, 2016 11:32 am**

Kelvin's Ferret wrote:

Take anything Polly says with a pinch of salt, she's the archetypal champagne socialist. What she fails to acknowledge, either by design or righteous ignorance, is that the "right on" social causes she supports long ago got hijacked by commercially driven, rent seeking, policy entrepreneurs looking to develop revenue streams out of narratives of perpetual grievance and entitlement. Polly's fellow travellers have no interest in trying to resolve the issues they espouse, if any of their causes actually do improve they simply find an innovative new interpretation to justify ongoing rent seeking. The"whitewash" is no such thing, people have just wised up that even the self-proclaimed "good guys" are on the gravy train.

That's capitalism for you.
The theory about having ambition making some money is ok but, there has to be some social conscience that comes with it or, we wnd up with people being exploited by the greedy and needy.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:14 am**

The biggest surprise in all this is that we haven't got a massively overused buzzword for the Trump supporting collective. Trumpers? Trumpets? Trumpeteers? Trumpions? Trumpxiteers?

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:01 am**

In another move towards healing some of the divides within the US, Trump appoints Stephen Bannon, a white supremacist as his new chief strategist.
It may not just be the Muslims and Mexicans that have to worry ?

There appear to be some dark times ahead as more and more countries lurch to the right to solve their political and economic problems.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:06 pm**

Well well well, what a year it has been politically. Brexit was good enough but then this. The liberal elite has taken one helluva kicking lately and it is majestic.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:12 pm**

Ajw71 wrote:

Well well well, what a year it has been politically. Brexit was good enough but then this. The liberal elite has taken one helluva kicking lately and it is majestic.

Was Dachau one of favourites and what it was about.
You really don't like people who think do you.

Posted: **Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:15 pm**

The interesting thing about Trump and Brexit is that they show just how many votes a wealthy individual can effectively buy (Trump himself and Banks).

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