Board index Welcome to RLFANS The Sin Bin It's Donald Trump



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 107 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: It's Donald Trump
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:46 am 
Bronze RLFANS Member
Bronze RLFANS Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:49 am
Posts: 3559
Location: WF4
wrencat1873 wrote:The theory about having ambition making some money is ok but, there has to be some social conscience that comes with it


People were sold the dream of aspiration, they were told ''this will make you happy'', the cynical among us just saw it as way of getting us to part with our money for crap we can live without, the ones who bought into it are literally chasing a dream, they want it all and they want it now and next month they want a shinier one because the one they have isn't quite shiny enough, and so on and so on. I was at a dinner table only last week listening to the 'hardship' tale of someone who'd taken their big flash car in for a repair after crashing it and was given a little hatchback as a courtesy car. ''It's a long time since I've had to make do with something like that'' they proudly spouted as if the little hatchback was beneath their new found superiority. My wife glanced over at me with one of those 'did that actually come out of her mouth?' looks, I just bit my tongue!

I've got no problem with having ambition or wanting to better yourself, we're all trying to do it in some way or another, but like you said, there has to be an amount of social conscience. Aspiration is breeding a self-centred need for shinier ones, bigger ones, brighter ones, faster ones, more powerful ones, and in the age of social media a need to shamelessly show it off. Many would do well to remember that some people haven't even got one at all.






"Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him."

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: It's Donald Trump
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:10 am 
Gold RLFANS Member
Gold RLFANS Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:28 pm
Posts: 12905
King Street Cat wrote:People were sold the dream of aspiration, they were told ''this will make you happy'', the cynical among us just saw it as way of getting us to part with our money for crap we can live without, the ones who bought into it are literally chasing a dream, they want it all and they want it now and next month they want a shinier one because the one they have isn't quite shiny enough, and so on and so on. I was at a dinner table only last week listening to the 'hardship' tale of someone who'd taken their big flash car in for a repair after crashing it and was given a little hatchback as a courtesy car. ''It's a long time since I've had to make do with something like that'' they proudly spouted as if the little hatchback was beneath their new found superiority. My wife glanced over at me with one of those 'did that actually come out of her mouth?' looks, I just bit my tongue!

I've got no problem with having ambition or wanting to better yourself, we're all trying to do it in some way or another, but like you said, there has to be an amount of social conscience. Aspiration is breeding a self-centred need for shinier ones, bigger ones, brighter ones, faster ones, more powerful ones, and in the age of social media a need to shamelessly show it off. Many would do well to remember that some people haven't even got one at all.


The demand to consume, consume, consume is burning the planets resources ever more quickly and as the 1 billion Chinese and 1 billion Indians become more aspirational, this demand will accelerate.
The governments of the developed world keep patting themselves on the back for reducing their own carbon emissions, when, the reality is that, they have passed these emissions on to China and India.
Consumption will kill all of us eventually, either by eating and drinking ourselves into an early grave or, bleeding the planet dry.

Back on subject, Trump will look after no. 1.
Himself and his family first, then his inner circle, followed by white Americans and maybe some others later on.
He seems to have no concern for anything too far outside his own back yard.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: It's Donald Trump
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:32 am 
Silver RLFANS Member
Silver RLFANS Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:38 pm
Posts: 6303
Location: Looking for a coach that can coach
Quote:Himself and his family first, then his inner circle


The guy is a billionaire why does he need to be president to look after this group?

Quote:He seems to have no concern for anything too far outside his own back yard.


Isn't that why he was voted in by the people of USA and similarly why we are leaving Europe?






Mac out!

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: It's Donald Trump
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:04 am 
Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:35 pm
Posts: 2413
wire-quin wrote:The guy is a billionaire why does he need to be president to look after this group?

Isn't that why he was voted in by the people of USA and similarly why we are leaving Europe?


It's arrogance , it's like when we see a new owner at a sports club , how many times on these pages have we seen " He's a successful businessman , of course he'll do better than the last one " this despite the last one being also a previous successful businessman

Being good at one thing doesn't make you necessarily good at everything , I built a reasonably successful business from scratch , employing 25 people turning a healthy profit from a 3 million + turnover

Did it last ? , no it had a life span , I tried other fields without success , quite often being in the right place at the right time just works , just as it has for Mr Trump this time

Is he the right guy to run the worlds most important country ?






snaivooladniv eht fo thgim eht eraweb

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: It's Donald Trump
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:56 pm 
Silver RLFANS Member
Silver RLFANS Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:38 pm
Posts: 6303
Location: Looking for a coach that can coach
Quote:Is he the right guy to run the worlds most important country ?


Some people seem to think he is.






Mac out!

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: It's Donald Trump
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:09 pm 
Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:35 pm
Posts: 2413
wire-quin wrote:Some people seem to think he is.


Ditto Mr Hitler , Mussilini ans Stalin






snaivooladniv eht fo thgim eht eraweb

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: It's Donald Trump
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:56 pm 
Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger
User avatar

Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:17 pm
Posts: 1978
GUBRATS wrote:Ditto Mr Hitler , Mussilini ans Stalin


I'm not sure they voted for Trump.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: It's Donald Trump
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:41 pm 
Free-scoring winger
Free-scoring winger
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 08, 2016 7:35 pm
Posts: 2413
Ajw71 wrote:I'm not sure they voted for Trump.


Out of 43 million , there's a good chance they did actually :wink:






snaivooladniv eht fo thgim eht eraweb

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: It's Donald Trump
PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:59 am 
Silver RLFANS Member
Silver RLFANS Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 08, 2002 11:46 pm
Posts: 9565
Location: 10 mins walk from Suncorp Stadium
We had a documentary on the ABC (equivalent of the Beeb) the other night re Trump. The most interesting thing by far was when the female reporter was talking to a couple of older women who voted for Trump. She tried several times to elicit some kind of outrage on behalf of all women re Trump's misogyny, but she couldn't. It was like they were talking a different language (including a fair degree of patronising tone thrown in for good measure).

In a nutshell that interview summed up for me the gap between the mainstream 'liberal' media and a big chunk of society. Its not so much that these women weren't outraged, but the reporter simply could not comprehend why. They might be dumb and ignorant, but she had a total and utter failure to comprehend their views and as a result had no way to communicate with them.

Replace sexism with racism (or immigration) or protectionism and I expect you'll see exactly the same kind of non-communication with many 'average' people who voted Trump or Brexit. What passes for the mainstream has moved on and just doesn't get that a large section of society not only hasn't moved on but doesn't want to, and more to the point resents being told they are fools or bigots for not agreeing.

I genuinely struggle to see how the generally upper middle class mainstream media can re-enage (or in many cases engage for the first time) with these people.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: It's Donald Trump
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:44 am 
Cheeky half-back
Cheeky half-back

Joined: Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:13 am
Posts: 947
BR youve tripped up the hard left usual suspects on here with that one. The silence is deafening.






Wire Quin at work

Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 107 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11  Next





It is currently Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:43 am

Retro.rlfans.com is no longer supported, we suggest that you try www.rlfans.com or i.rlfans.com or m.rlfans.com

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 51 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:43 am
POSTSONLINEMEMBERSRECORDYOUR TEAM
4,996,3861,83077,9514,559SET
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.
Thu 30th Jan 19:45
SL
WIGAN WARRIORS
v
WARRINGTON
Fri 31st Jan 19:30
 CH
DEWSBURY RAMS
v
LEIGH
Fri 31st Jan 19:45
SL
HULL KR
v
WAKEFIELD
Fri 31st Jan 19:45
SL
ST.HELENS
v
SALFORD
Sat 1st Feb 17:00
SL
CATALAN DRAGONS
v
HUDDERSFIELD
Sat 1st Feb 19:30
 CH
TOULOUSE
v
YORK
Sun 2nd Feb 14:30
SL
TORONTO
v
CASTLEFORD
Sun 2nd Feb 15:00
 CH
BATLEY BULLDOGS
v
FEATHERSTONE
Sun 2nd Feb 15:00
 CH
BRADFORD BULLS
v
LONDON BRONCOS
Sun 2nd Feb 15:00
 CH
HALIFAX
v
SHEFFIELD
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)





11

.