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Re: London attack

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:41 pm
by Leaguefan
PCollinson1990 wrote:
............I'll stand up for our values and country


Ooooh goody and what are they?

Re: London attack

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:39 am
by PCollinson1990
Leaguefan wrote:
Ooooh goody and what are they?

Democracy, Equality, Free Speech, but I guess you don't hold those values?

Re: London attack

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:44 am
by bren2k
PCollinson1990 wrote:
Democracy, Equality, Free Speech, but I guess you don't hold those values?


And what are you doing to stand up for those values, whilst us lefties do our best to erode them...?

Re: London attack

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:54 pm
by Chris28
wrencat1873 wrote:
It mowed people down on Westminster Bridge.
If Parliament was his target, why would you do that ?

Btw, I am in no way condoning the "terrorist" that carried out the attack, just questioning that this was a direct attack on Parliament.

Breivik set off a bomb in Oslo to distract the coppers etc before heading to Utoya. Good distraction technique, same as Elms causing mayhem nearby to get people heading there - you'll have seen the video of the armed coppers running back to the Parliament gates from the car crash site round the corner...

Re: London attack

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:23 pm
by wrencat1873
Chris28 wrote:
Breivik set off a bomb in Oslo to distract the coppers etc before heading to Utoya. Good distraction technique, same as Elms causing mayhem nearby to get people heading there - you'll have seen the video of the armed coppers running back to the Parliament gates from the car crash site round the corner...


You may be right but, to mow people down on the road leading to your "target" is somewhat drawing attention to yourself, isn't it.
A distraction would have been to target somewhere completely different and then while there was a commotion in that place, go off and do what you intended in the first place ie, not draw attention to yourself, until you had done what you wanted.

As Mr Ardvark said, personally, i'm incapable of thinking it through so, my opinion is utterly invalid.

Re: London attack

PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:10 am
by Leaguefan
PCollinson1990 wrote:
Democracy, Equality, Free Speech, but I guess you don't hold those values?


When are they going to become part of "our values"?

We have an unelected head of state, a system where a minority can create a government.

Equality? in what, education, wages, because of colour, sex or releigion?

Free speech? Why do slander and libel laws exist added to that the wail and depress;-)

I fight in my own way to make sure they may come about, but they don't exist at the moment the way people believe they do because they are told it so.

Re: London attack

PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:09 pm
by wire-quin
We have an unelected head of state, a system where a minority can create a government.


Your seeming to suggest that we are like the yanks in that we vote for an individual. The Cons have the majority and form the Government. We didn't vote Cameron in nor May.

A system where the SNP get stacks less votes than UKIP but have many seats and are now trying to split the union.

When you say minority what is it you actually mean?

Re: London attack

PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:12 pm
by PCollinson1990
Leaguefan wrote:
When are they going to become part of "our values"?

We have an unelected head of state, a system where a minority can create a government.

Equality? in what, education, wages, because of colour, sex or releigion?

Free speech? Why do slander and libel laws exist added to that the wail and depress;-)

I fight in my own way to make sure they may come about, but they don't exist at the moment the way people believe they do because they are told it so.

I've got some spare tinfoil if you need a new hat...I believe what I KNOW

Re: London attack

PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:59 pm
by Lebron James
Could anyone tell me how many innocent people have been murdered in the Middle East the past fortnight by the uk? I've heard between 50 and 400? What about Yemen? Another couple of thousand? Before the EDF and daily mail supporters on here pipe up, i.e. Dally.Who do you think supplies the Saudis with their bombs and bullets? How does Therasa May keep a straight face in parliament when she denounces terroism and then goes and kills a load of innocent Iraqis?

Regards

King james

Re: London attack

PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:56 am
by PCollinson1990
Lebron James wrote:
Could anyone tell me how many innocent people have been murdered in the Middle East the past fortnight by the uk? I've heard between 50 and 400? What about Yemen? Another couple of thousand? Before the EDF and daily mail supporters on here pipe up, i.e. Dally.Who do you think supplies the Saudis with their bombs and bullets? How does Therasa May keep a straight face in parliament when she denounces terroism and then goes and kills a load of innocent Iraqis?

Regards

King james

We've been murdering innocents for centuries, claiming foreign lands, usually in the name of "Christianity", we sell arms to anyone who'll buy them, it's time we just went the Swiss way, look after ourselves and let everyone else fight between themselves