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IR 35 : Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:17 pm  
Anyone else fallen foul of this. Going to cost me somewhere between £5 and £10 k extra tax etc this year.

Basically a ploy to get rid of agency workers in the public sector.

I can do the same job working for a charity or a private company but if I do it for a local authority I get taxed at significantly higher rate.

Agencies trying to get us to sign up to umbrella companies meaning I pay tax on emverything cannot claim my expenses back .

Have to pay my NI as well as employers NI.
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Re: IR 35 : Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:47 pm  
Durham Giant wrote:
Anyone else fallen foul of this. Going to cost me somewhere between £5 and £10 k extra tax etc this year.

Basically a ploy to get rid of agency workers in the public sector.

I can do the same job working for a charity or a private company but if I do it for a local authority I get taxed at significantly higher rate.

Agencies trying to get us to sign up to umbrella companies meaning I pay tax on emverything cannot claim my expenses back .

Have to pay my NI as well as employers NI.

It's designed to stop people working what are, effectively, permanent roles but avoid tax and NI. It will mess plenty of people up.
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Re: IR 35 : Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:27 am  
It is a sign of how corrupt Britain has become - government and government bodies have been encouraging and organising tax avoidance.
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Re: IR 35 : Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:25 pm  
Dally wrote:
It is a sign of how corrupt Britain has become - government and government bodies have been encouraging and organising tax avoidance.



Yet hitting the small man and recruiting 5000 new staff to look at small scale tax earners and ignoring the big companies.

The worst aspect is that it actually prevents people like me from travelling away to work and being able to earn more and pay more tax because all my travel accommodation and associated costs are no longer offset against tax.

Yesterday if I worked in the private sector everyone of these things can be offset.

It again is really hammering anyone who works in the public sector.

Doctor or nurse who does agency work for the NHS falls within IR35.

Doctor o r nurse who does agency work for BUPA does not.

Public sector workers once again paying the price of economic crash.
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Re: IR 35 : Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:25 pm  
Durham Giant wrote:
Yet hitting the small man and recruiting 5000 new staff to look at small scale tax earners and ignoring the big companies.

The worst aspect is that it actually prevents people like me from travelling away to work and being able to earn more and pay more tax because all my travel accommodation and associated costs are no longer offset against tax.

Yesterday if I worked in the private sector everyone of these things can be offset.

It again is really hammering anyone who works in the public sector.

Doctor or nurse who does agency work for the NHS falls within IR35.

Doctor o r nurse who does agency work for BUPA does not.

Public sector workers once again paying the price of economic crash.

Agree 100%, we may as well just all pack it in and get a job at B&Q, I've wound my company up, it simply isn't viable to be a contractor. The agencies will fold as well, there will be many more homeless.
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Re: IR 35 : Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:39 pm  
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Agree 100%, we may as well just all pack it in and get a job at B&Q, I've wound my company up, it simply isn't viable to be a contractor. The agencies will fold as well, there will be many more homeless.

The work will still need doing.
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Re: IR 35 : Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:52 pm  
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The work will still need doing.

But the wages won't be worth it. More people on benefits. People are living longer so services are more expensive, simple fact.
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Re: IR 35 : Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:28 pm  
It's about time HMRC clamped down on this. Too many people taking advantage. To those complaining, no, it's not causing you to pay extra tax, it's bringing you inline with what you should have paid if you didn't set up a limited company in order to evade paying tax and more importantly national insurance

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Re: IR 35 : Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:01 pm  
Lebron James wrote:
It's about time HMRC clamped down on this. Too many people taking advantage. To those complaining, no, it's not causing you to pay extra tax, it's bringing you inline with what you should have paid if you didn't set up a limited company in order to evade paying tax and more importantly national insurance

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So why is it only being used for those who work in the public sector and not those in the private sector ?
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Re: IR 35 : Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:21 pm  
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So why is it only being used for those who work in the public sector and not those in the private sector ?

I would guess because as the government ultimately funds the employers they will det compliance. I would imagine that the government after seeing their success will feel confident in going after others.
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