Re: Donald Trump : Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:20 pm  

bren2k wrote:

I don't get the point? Trump is, somehow, the POTUS, and in the absence of a TARDIS, it seems entirely reasonable to look to him to deal with this issue, rather than whatabouting previous incumbents. Yes?

True he's now the guy in charge and you're correct that at this current moment in time the buck stops with him. Just like the buck stopped with all the previous occupants of his role. It's just the Trump haters are using it as one of the reasons he is a bad president. Does that mean every president before him was also unfit for the role. The truth is until the majority of voters in the US make it a must do and therefore a vote winner nowt will happen.

Re: Donald Trump : Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:48 pm  

I've got to ask one question. All these 'patriotic' Brits on here who just adore Trump... Just what is the love affair with him?

You see it in comment sections in the usual right wing rags: "I wish he was our president", "come to the UK, Donald", "we need you here, Donald". Is it because you think he's a good leader, or do you just like a good love-in with a 'strongman'?

Re: Donald Trump : Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:28 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

But successive administrations have failed - not just trump

Trump hasn't tried.....as other have said, the Republicans need the NRA, without whom they's loose massive amounts of funding. As for Trump compared to his predecessor, the comparison is like comparing Florence Nightingale to Adolf Hitler.

Obama says gun control must come in and the POTUS should not incite the far right with his own inflammatory statements, Trump laughs when someone suggest shooting immigrants and blames "mental health issues" as the reason for the shootings and ignores the statements from the shooter in Texas who claimed he wanted to shoot as many mexicans as he could...I refer you back to the video linked above of Trump saying that could only happen in the Panhandle and chuckling to himself...the panhandle is in Texas BTW.

You're either on the wind up, not particularly bright, or a right wing apologist if you can't see that Trump is the polar opposite of what a POTUS should be.

Re: Donald Trump : Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:58 pm  

Call Me God wrote:

Trump hasn't tried.....as other have said, the Republicans need the NRA, without whom they's loose massive amounts of funding. As for Trump compared to his predecessor, the comparison is like comparing Florence Nightingale to Adolf Hitler.

Obama says gun control must come in and the POTUS should not incite the far right with his own inflammatory statements, Trump laughs when someone suggest shooting immigrants and blames "mental health issues" as the reason for the shootings and ignores the statements from the shooter in Texas who claimed he wanted to shoot as many mexicans as he could...I refer you back to the video linked above of Trump saying that could only happen in the Panhandle and chuckling to himself...the panhandle is in Texas BTW.

You're either on the wind up, not particularly bright, or a right wing apologist if you can't see that Trump is the polar opposite of what a POTUS should be.

I'm not a Trump apologist and do not want him as the leader of our country, is that clear enough. What i don't agree with is all this virtue signalling. Just because I don't agree with your opinion on everything does not make me thick or until now resort to insults. By your logic of "trying" you must admire Theresa May for her attempts to get the Brexit deal through parliament... but I somehow doubt it. As I said in a previous post gun control won't happen until the voters of America insist on it.

Re: Donald Trump : Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:41 am  

wotsupcas wrote: I'm not a Trump apologist and do not want him as the leader of our country, is that clear enough. What i don't agree with is all this virtue signalling. Just because I don't agree with your opinion on everything does not make me thick or until now resort to insults. By your logic of "trying" you must admire Theresa May for her attempts to get the Brexit deal through parliament... but I somehow doubt it. As I said in a previous post gun control won't happen until the voters of America insist on it. I simply pointed out the 3 main reasons for anyone defending a President who chuckles when someone suggest shooting central American Immigrants and who then has people deleting prior tweets inciting such actions, whilst also trying to blame apparent inaction of his predecessor are either: A: On the deliberate Wind Up B: Not very clever C: Right wing apologists BTW. If you take that as an insult, you're not B as you've picked up that reality.......so is it A or C? have a read https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35239504 https://www.businessinsider.com.au/why-obama-faced-relentless-opposition-gun-reform-after-sandy-hook-2019-8?r=US&IR=T Mental Illness eh.....if only they had checks eh? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38986147 I hope it's A, because C has no place in a modern society

wotsupcas wrote: I'm not a Trump apologist and do not want him as the leader of our country, is that clear enough. What i don't agree with is all this virtue signalling. Just because I don't agree with your opinion on everything does not make me thick or until now resort to insults. By your logic of "trying" you must admire Theresa May for her attempts to get the Brexit deal through parliament... but I somehow doubt it. As I said in a previous post gun control won't happen until the voters of America insist on it. I simply pointed out the 3 main reasons for anyone defending a President who chuckles when someone suggest shooting central American Immigrants and who then has people deleting prior tweets inciting such actions, whilst also trying to blame apparent inaction of his predecessor are either: A: On the deliberate Wind Up B: Not very clever C: Right wing apologists BTW. If you take that as an insult, you're not B as you've picked up that reality.......so is it A or C? have a read https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35239504 https://www.businessinsider.com.au/why-obama-faced-relentless-opposition-gun-reform-after-sandy-hook-2019-8?r=US&IR=T Mental Illness eh.....if only they had checks eh? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38986147 I hope it's A, because C has no place in a modern society

Re: Donald Trump : Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:32 am  

Call Me God wrote: I simply pointed out the 3 main reasons for anyone defending a President who chuckles when someone suggest shooting central American Immigrants and who then has people deleting prior tweets inciting such actions, whilst also trying to blame apparent inaction of his predecessor are either: A: On the deliberate Wind Up B: Not very clever C: Right wing apologists BTW. If you take that as an insult, you're not B as you've picked up that reality.......so is it A or C? have a read https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35239504 https://www.businessinsider.com.au/why-obama-faced-relentless-opposition-gun-reform-after-sandy-hook-2019-8?r=US&IR=T Mental Illness eh.....if only they had checks eh? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38986147 I hope it's A, because C has no place in a modern society Please tell me where I have said anything positive about Trump. I have merely been pointing out that "trying" won't get job done. Only the American electorate can force that issue. There are many reasons that Trump is not a good president but gun control isn't one of them. As for reading page after page of why Trump is a bad president I'll not bother as I already know.

Call Me God wrote: I simply pointed out the 3 main reasons for anyone defending a President who chuckles when someone suggest shooting central American Immigrants and who then has people deleting prior tweets inciting such actions, whilst also trying to blame apparent inaction of his predecessor are either: A: On the deliberate Wind Up B: Not very clever C: Right wing apologists BTW. If you take that as an insult, you're not B as you've picked up that reality.......so is it A or C? have a read https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35239504 https://www.businessinsider.com.au/why-obama-faced-relentless-opposition-gun-reform-after-sandy-hook-2019-8?r=US&IR=T Mental Illness eh.....if only they had checks eh? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38986147 I hope it's A, because C has no place in a modern society Please tell me where I have said anything positive about Trump. I have merely been pointing out that "trying" won't get job done. Only the American electorate can force that issue. There are many reasons that Trump is not a good president but gun control isn't one of them. As for reading page after page of why Trump is a bad president I'll not bother as I already know.

Re: Donald Trump : Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:54 am  

wotsupcas wrote:

There are many reasons that Trump is not a good president but gun control isn't one of them.

But it is. His buttering up to the inbred, redneck, gun-toting lobby just legitimises their behaviour in their eyes.

Just like it legitimises treating human beings like this;

Re: Donald Trump : Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:22 pm  

People in this country should respect the fact that decent hardworking Americans voted for trump. He won simply because the democrat campaign was woeful. I spend a lot of time in the USA (long story) i witnessed Madonna, lady gaga whoever she is and other rich stars hurling abuse at trump on national tv.
Meanwhile trump was visiting the rust belt and farming communities promising to bring back jobs to the USA. I dislike trump for his shocking behaviour towards contractors and subcontractors whilst building the trump casino in Atlantic City. In not paying these people he bankrupted large and small family firms. Anybody interested google ,trump casino Atlantic city New York Times. There is lots of other information online as to his behaviour down in Atlantic City.

Re: Donald Trump : Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:06 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

People in this country should respect the fact that decent hardworking Americans voted for trump.

All democratically elected leaders will have an element of decent folk voting for them. It doesn't spare them from ridicule & criticism, nor should it.

Re: Donald Trump : Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:06 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

People in this country should respect the fact that decent hardworking Americans voted for trump. He won simply because the democrat campaign was woeful.

But 2.87 million more of them voted for Clinton; he won because of the bizarre electoral college system in the US.