Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:51 am  

The Devil's Advocate wrote:

Well, I'm on here aren't I does that count?

Ok, seeing as you're claiming to be so blinkered and possibly naive(?), happy to help:





But "humbug" is far more offensive and the word 'surrender' is influencing people.

The thing is I don't call you anything, I wouldn't lower myself with personnel insults.

You're a rum one, ain'tcha.

Again, they didn't promise to crash out without a deal.

So they should have voted for the deal. It might not be wonderful but it's better than no deal. Instead they chose to delay in the hope of reversing Brexit and damaging the government. If they don't want 'no deal' and all promised to honour the referendum, surely they would vote for a deal? Or...hang on...no surely they wouldn't be lying, would they?

I'm not talking about hour after hour, just the headline news report on the flagship shows, you appear to be in the camp of, if you don't back the plan for the glorious revolution, you are fair game to be abused by the countries P.M.

You're seeing what you want to see, in other words.

I back the result of the referendum. Do you?

And if they choose to hurl abuse at the PM, they deserve everything they get. Give it but can't take it? Hypocrites? Surely not.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Fri Sep 27, 2019 11:21 am  

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hu ... ns-2636711 constituents voted leave, MP's shafted them and went remain... Duplicitous Labour....

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hu ... ns-2636711 constituents voted leave, MP's shafted them and went remain... Duplicitous Labour....

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:35 pm  

Cronus wrote:

Ok, seeing as you're claiming to be so blinkered and possibly naive(?), happy to help:

Cronus wrote:

But "humbug" is far more offensive and the word 'surrender' is influencing people.

Cool pics Bro, I even cracked a smile, but once again I've never seen Mary Nightingale start the the news with such contemptible images. Unlike Boris, who continues to insult the people trying to stop a no-deal Brexit. I shouldn't be too surprised though, you only have to look at his rap sheet to see what a repugnant individual he is.

Cronus wrote:

So they should have voted for the deal. It might not be wonderful but it's better than no deal. Instead they chose to delay in the hope of reversing Brexit and damaging the government. If they don't want 'no deal' and all promised to honour the referendum, surely they would vote for a deal? Or...hang on...no surely they wouldn't be lying, would they?

They wanted a better deal, a deal where all sides of the house could have some input, but no, the government chose the blinkered approach. Why should the biggest decision this country has had to make in eighty years be decided by fifty percent of the M.P.'s?

Cronus wrote:

I back the result of the referendum. Do you?

I'm a bit like Boris with the Supreme Court, I abide with the decision, but I don't think it's the right one.

But again, did the referendum ballot paper say leave the E.U. without a deal, sorry that was a bit rhetorical, of course it didn't, because it was going to be the easiest deal in human history apparently.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:58 pm  

The hypocrisy from Boris just goes on and on.
Anyone trying to prevent him having carte blanche to take us out of the EU with No deal is a "traitor" and yet, he was happy (twice) to vote against May's withdrawal bill.
2 1/2 years down the line since the referendum and our "almighty leader", still hasn't got his plans for Ireland beyond scribbled ideas on the proverbial fag packet.
We finally have our very own version of Trump, a populist right wing racist politician, who doesn't give a toss about anyone or anything apart from his own political vision.
I just wonder which laws he will break to achieve his dream of a no deal exit from the EU, which was his idea all along.

It's no wonder that Trump likes him as Boris seems to enjoy having someone's hand firmly up his backside pulling his strings.

The concept behind Brexit does become a little clearer now though, with an ever closer union with the USA being the desired position, as opposed to trading and working with our largest and closest "natural" market.

It's always interesting to try and work out just why people do certain things and whilst it wasn't obvious at the start, it's certainly becoming clear now.

God bless the United Kingdom of America - and we dont even have to change the colours on our flag.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:11 pm  

IR80 wrote:

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/brexit-vote-live-house-commons-2636711

constituents voted leave, MP's shafted them and went remain... Duplicitous Labour....

What about the Tory MPs whose constituents voted Remain? Should they also vote against the Government? Not that constituents voted on political boundaries; that no doubt escaped you.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:27 pm  

tigertot wrote:

What about the Tory MPs whose constituents voted Remain? Should they also vote against the Government? Not that constituents voted on political boundaries; that no doubt escaped you.

IF an MP is to do their job, they vote AS INSTRUCTED by the people they represent.

Another attempt at an insult, keep it going, you might say something insulting one day.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:40 pm  

They don’t.

They do what they think is best for their constituency. You see, UK MP’s are representatives, not delegates.

The amount of pig ignorant people who believe they’re politically savvy since the referendum is quite remarkable.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:45 pm  

Strinket wrote:

They don’t.

They do what they think is best for their constituency. You see, UK MP’s are representatives, not delegates.

The amount of pig ignorant people who believe they’re politically savvy since the referendum is quite remarkable.

So, the majority vote one way, it is down to their REPRESENTATIVE to, errr, REPRESENT that.

The amount of pig ignorant people suddenly cropping up and chucking attempted insults around is baffling,

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:00 pm  

IR80 wrote:

So, the majority vote one way, it is down to their REPRESENTATIVE to, errr, REPRESENT that.

Are you suggesting we should therefore have a people's vote on every individual issue so MPs know exactly how one-third of their populace are feeling prior to any decision in the House; rather than what they think is best?

Re: Brexit Anyone? (part 4) : Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:15 pm  

IR80 wrote:

So, the majority vote one way, it is down to their REPRESENTATIVE to, errr, REPRESENT that.

The amount of pig ignorant people suddenly cropping up and chucking attempted insults around is baffling,

Sorry but, he's right.
Although, in a "straight line" you would expect an MP in a leave area to vote "leave" in Parliament.
The MP will have gained their seat based on a majority in their constituency.
There will be MP's of ALL parties, who, although, elected by a majority in their constituency, (of those who bothered to vote), are still following their party mandate or perhaps the party whip and as we've seen recently, even then, they can still vote (on all issues) whichever way they choose and come the next General Election, their constituents have the chance to either vote them back in or not.

Of course, Brexit wasn't decided along party lines, with voters, in many cases going against their chosen party's preference.
Not to mention the dreaded "no deal" vs "a deal".

Although it's not the same thing, we actually have a Prime Minister, currently voted in purely by the Tory membership, a mere 92000 people.
Democracy is indeed a strange thing in this country but, remember, the protection of our democracy and ability to make our own laws, is, we were told, what Brexit was all about.

Unfortunately, the Prime Minister, voted in by just 92,000 people now believes that Parliament should be shut down and that The High Court got their judgement wrong - how very ironic.

As for MP's serving their constituency, I'm sure that the vast majority would say that this is exactly what they are doing, although not everyone seems to like it.