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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:15 am 
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wotsupcas wrote:I'm not being had. I know the NHS needs more funding,...it always will no matter how much we put in.


It’s been underfunded for the past 9 years. That’s government policy. It would be coping a lot better but for that policy.


wotsupcas wrote:However people who use the NHS who aren't entitled don't help. As I have said before it's not just the money it's the principle. I think they're cheeky gets.


It’s a tiny problem compared with the underfunding. In the Trust I work for the admin of collecting money for care actually costs more than it raises.






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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:39 am 
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tigertot wrote:What do you suggest we do to children born 3 months prematurely - throw them out onto the streets?

Sent her back to Nigeria before she had them. The state's had no problem turning her away. We can't treat the world we haven't got enough for our own citizens. Maybe it would have sent a message out that we're not a soft touch.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:04 am 
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wotsupcas wrote:Sent her back to Nigeria before she had them. The state's had no problem turning her away. We can't treat the world we haven't got enough for our own citizens. Maybe it would have sent a message out that we're not a soft touch.


Wasn't an option was it?

If a woman goes into labour she can't just be put on a plane. Same as anyone else with a medical emergency.

The USA sent her on her way before she went into labour.

If we hadn't treated her there could've been four dead babies. That'd show we're not a soft touch alright. If you're advocating that then there's no point in discussing any further.






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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:10 am 
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tigertot wrote:You are talking paranoid rubbish. I have been on holiday in Greece when a friend who became ill. We took him to the local hospital; the treatment was excellent & free. I don't think they even asked to see his card.



Enough with the facts please.






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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:12 am 
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Bullseye wrote:Wasn't an option was it?

If a woman goes into labour she can't just be put on a plane. Same as anyone else with a medical emergency.

The USA sent her on her way before she went into labour.

If we hadn't treated her there could've been four dead babies. That'd show we're not a soft touch alright. If you're advocating that then there's no point in discussing any further.

Why did she leave Nigeria when she was so close to giving birth? Probably to use the emotional blackmail of "dead babies" that you have fallen for. Nobody wants to see anyone die but pulling on our heartstrings and goodwill leaves us open to being used.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:28 am 
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wotsupcas wrote:Why did she leave Nigeria when she was so close to giving birth? Probably to use the emotional blackmail of "dead babies" that you have fallen for. Nobody wants to see anyone die but pulling on our heartstrings and goodwill leaves us open to being used.


The story is quite clear. She was under the impression that she had care fixed up in the USA. She was 3 months off her due date. so not "so close to giving birth".

When that turned out not to be the case she headed back to Nigeria. While on her way back she went into labour. She couldn't just be put on a plane out of Heathrow when that happened.

What do you suggest in this case should we have done differently? Forced her to cross her legs til she got home?






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Bullseye wrote:The story is quite clear. She was under the impression that she had care fixed up in the USA. She was 3 months off her due date. so not "so close to giving birth".

When that turned out not to be the case she headed back to Nigeria. While on her way back she went into labour. She couldn't just be put on a plane out of Heathrow when that happened.

What do you suggest in this case should we have done differently? Forced her to cross her legs til she got home?

Not entirely true that is it. My impression is that she was trying it on in the state's because she"wanted"to give birth there and was sent packing because she couldn't pay for it. Then we ended up being the unlucky recipients

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I had an accident on North Sea Ferry in Belgium. Needed stitches ambulance to Blankenberg Hospital. Overnight in hospital, early next day I was asked for my EU card and a bill for ambulance, treatment and one night stay arrived within a week of my return. I then had to claim my costs at NHS Newcastle. Fact.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:21 pm 
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Bullseye wrote:It’s always the same. Those with agendas to keep people from realising they’re being mugged off put out stories that are easily swallowed.

Benefits Street – “the poor are to blame”

Bendy Bananas – “the EU are to blame”

Nigerian woman gives birth – “foreigners bleeding the NHS dry it’s their fault I can’t get treatment”.


You’re being had.

Meanwhile those to blame get away with it.


But the foreigners are bleeding the NHS. Every time I’m in any department there’s plenty foreigners in the waiting rooms which will be making waiting times longer and costing the taxpayers. Foreigners aren’t crippling the NHS on their own, I’d say final salary pensions, pointless managers, waste, being ripped off by suppliers and contractors because it’s the NHS all play their part.

The UK is seen as a free hospital by foreigners who come and visit and viola ‘Looks like I need a new kidney whilst I’m here’, or ‘I’ll just visit the UK whilst I’m 9 months pregnant’. I know for a fact elderly Asians come to visit relatives in the UK just so they can get free treatment for whatever ailments on the NHS.

And don’t go down the ‘The NHS would collapse if not for foreign workers’. There are plenty who all play their part but they’re workers, there’s plenty doctors and nurses but there’s plenty British doctors and nurses. Foreigners play their part but foreigners also take the Mick. The left only believe they play their part, the right believe they only take the Mick. I’m saying both happens.






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wotsupcas wrote:Not entirely true that is it. My impression is that she was trying it on in the state's because she"wanted"to give birth there and was sent packing because she couldn't pay for it. Then we ended up being the unlucky recipients


What would you have done differently when she went into labour at Heathrow?






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