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Re: Brexit watch Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:13 pm  
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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
I didn’t know Johnson posted on the forum or are you being deliberately gullible if you believe what he says despite the litany of lies that have been confirmed. If he is not worried about the trade deal why keep it secret until the autumn and not mention that he has caved in on the timing of tariff free meat from Australia.
I wonder what you will do with the £1.20 saving this deal will give each household.

So we've negotiated this trade deal. Which we should all celebrate cos Britain! :CHEERS: :CHEERS:
But we're not going to reveal what is in it until a long way away, so you'll all have forgotten about it by then.
And whatever you do don't look at the Australian government's read out which gives away a lot more detail than we wanted to reveal over here.

And still they lap it up. It's genuinely become a cult.
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Re: Brexit watch Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:28 pm  

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JONNYGIANT wrote:
We wont be importing hormone beef from Australia :(


Thats super disappointing, i do hope Boris has a rethink, we never wanted to ban it in the first place.
Im seem to recall there was very little scientific evidence to support the original ban.

Thought it was our chance to actually match the Aussies on the pitch!!!
Re: Brexit watch Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:13 pm  

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Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
I didn’t know Johnson posted on the forum or are you being deliberately gullible if you believe what he says despite the litany of lies that have been confirmed. If he is not worried about the trade deal why keep it secret until the autumn and not mention that he has caved in on the timing of tariff free meat from Australia.
I wonder what you will do with the £1.20 saving this deal will give each household.

You cant import hormone beef into the UK as it doesnt meet our import standards, are you saying that's going to change just because weve signed a trade agreement with Australia?
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Re: Brexit watch Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:16 pm  

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TURFEDOUT wrote:
Thats super disappointing, i do hope Boris has a rethink, we never wanted to ban it in the first place.
Im seem to recall there was very little scientific evidence to support the original ban.

Thought it was our chance to actually match the Aussies on the pitch!!!

It will still be full of antibiotics though :lol:
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Re: Brexit watch Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:34 pm  

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JONNYGIANT wrote:
You cant import hormone beef into the UK as it doesnt meet our import standards, are you saying that's going to change just because weve signed a trade agreement with Australia?


Are you going to take the word of a man, already breaking the terms of a deal he signed less than six months ago.
Gullible is the 3716th word in the dictionary, perhaps you could look it up :D
Re: Brexit watch Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:08 pm  

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Are you going to take the word of a man, already breaking the terms of a deal he signed less than six months ago.
Gullible is the 3716th word in the dictionary, perhaps you could look it up :D

Your addiction is a cruel mistress is it not :D
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Re: Brexit watch Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:12 pm  

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The Ghost of '99 wrote:
So we've negotiated this trade deal. Which we should all celebrate cos Britain! :CHEERS: :CHEERS:
But we're not going to reveal what is in it until a long way away, so you'll all have forgotten about it by then.
And whatever you do don't look at the Australian government's read out which gives away a lot more detail than we wanted to reveal over here.

And still they lap it up. It's genuinely become a cult.

A cult like momentum, eeh bah gum ,I bet you anker for your bygone days darn t'pit,was life better then :lol:
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Re: Brexit watch Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:17 am  

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Looks like Boris has lied again

However, when the deal was mooted last month, it was anticipated that tariffs and quotas would not be fully removed on meat imports for 15 years – to calm the protests of worried farming groups.

But the full details, released by Australia but suppressed in London, showed that:

* Tariffs on beef will only kick in, from day one, when imports rise above 35,000 tonnes – more than 60 times the level of sales to the UK in 2020.

* Tariffs will only be levied on imports of lamb above 25,000 tonnes – around three times last year’s sales.

Currently, Australian beef exporters pay a 12 per cent tariff, with variable surcharges of between £1.40 and £2.50 a kilo, and face an annual quota of 3,761 tonnes.

Labour also argued the UK would leap immediately from the 27th to the 6th most popular destination for Australian beef, if the full quota was taken up, and to third place for lamb.

Tariff-free beef imports will be allowed to reach 110,000 tonnes by the tenth year and sheep meat imports 75,000 tonnes.

“While Australia is getting everything it wanted and more, we are getting next to nothing in return, with a miniscule 0.025 per cent increase in UK growth the most optimistic projection,” Ms Thornberry added.

Trade experts backed that verdict on the economic benefits of the deal, John Ferguson, at the Economist Intelligence Unit, calling it “incredibly small”.

“This is simply due to the fact that Australia is a long way away from the UK and distance really matters to the amount that two countries trade with each other,” he said.

Dr Peter Holmes, of the UK Trade Policy Observatory at the University of Sussex, said: “The total direct net effect of the trade deal will be close to zero, so the key questions are what provisions it makes for standards and what precedents it sets.”

The UK government said the “agreement in principle”, to be published in the coming days, would:

* Eliminate tariffs on all UK goods going to Australia – although they are typically only around 5 per cent.

* Save British households £34m a year as tariff cuts make Australian imports cheaper – which works out as £1.20 per household.

But the worse but is that when the government agreed to set up a panel to scrutinise trade deals it will not give them access to all the details of this deal .

MPs are demanding the power to scrutinise the deal immediately, but ministers – as The Independent revealed – plan to deny full access until the autumn, when critics fear it will be too late.
Neil Parish, the Conservative chair of the Commons environment committee, said that “would make a mockery of the commitments made”, when a watchdog was promised last year.

I now await WUM boys comments about loony lefties even though the comments above are from a Tory politician.

Then again he might not bothering commenting as he “Can’t be arsed about the trade deal “
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Re: Brexit watch Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:50 am  

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Durham Giant wrote:
Looks like Boris has lied again

However, when the deal was mooted last month, it was anticipated that tariffs and quotas would not be fully removed on meat imports for 15 years – to calm the protests of worried farming groups.

But the full details, released by Australia but suppressed in London, showed that:

* Tariffs on beef will only kick in, from day one, when imports rise above 35,000 tonnes – more than 60 times the level of sales to the UK in 2020.

* Tariffs will only be levied on imports of lamb above 25,000 tonnes – around three times last year’s sales.

Currently, Australian beef exporters pay a 12 per cent tariff, with variable surcharges of between £1.40 and £2.50 a kilo, and face an annual quota of 3,761 tonnes.

Labour also argued the UK would leap immediately from the 27th to the 6th most popular destination for Australian beef, if the full quota was taken up, and to third place for lamb.

Tariff-free beef imports will be allowed to reach 110,000 tonnes by the tenth year and sheep meat imports 75,000 tonnes.

“While Australia is getting everything it wanted and more, we are getting next to nothing in return, with a miniscule 0.025 per cent increase in UK growth the most optimistic projection,” Ms Thornberry added.

Trade experts backed that verdict on the economic benefits of the deal, John Ferguson, at the Economist Intelligence Unit, calling it “incredibly small”.

“This is simply due to the fact that Australia is a long way away from the UK and distance really matters to the amount that two countries trade with each other,” he said.

Dr Peter Holmes, of the UK Trade Policy Observatory at the University of Sussex, said: “The total direct net effect of the trade deal will be close to zero, so the key questions are what provisions it makes for standards and what precedents it sets.”

The UK government said the “agreement in principle”, to be published in the coming days, would:

* Eliminate tariffs on all UK goods going to Australia – although they are typically only around 5 per cent.

* Save British households £34m a year as tariff cuts make Australian imports cheaper – which works out as £1.20 per household.

But the worse but is that when the government agreed to set up a panel to scrutinise trade deals it will not give them access to all the details of this deal .

MPs are demanding the power to scrutinise the deal immediately, but ministers – as The Independent revealed – plan to deny full access until the autumn, when critics fear it will be too late.
Neil Parish, the Conservative chair of the Commons environment committee, said that “would make a mockery of the commitments made”, when a watchdog was promised last year.

I now await WUM boys comments about loony lefties even though the comments above are from a Tory politician.

Then again he might not bothering commenting as he “Can’t be arsed about the trade deal “

Well done you going to all that trouble writing people's opinions down ,the fact of the matter is that there wont be hormones involved ,all I'm bothered about is calling people on heres lies out ,I dont really know why you cant accept that btw are you going to the Salford home game
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Re: Brexit watch Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:54 pm  

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JONNYGIANT wrote:
Well done you going to all that trouble writing people's opinions down ,the fact of the matter is that there wont be hormones involved ,all I'm bothered about is calling people on heres lies out ,I dont really know why you cant accept that btw are you going to the Salford home game


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