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Re: Millionaire N London Barrister leads Labour : Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:35 pm  

bren2k wrote:

Perhaps because he knew it was all bo11ocks?

The sum total of 0.08% of the Labour membership resigned, were expelled or received formal warnings in relation to anti-Semitism, and the Home Affairs Select Committee concluded that there was "no reliable, empirical evidence to support the notion that there is a higher prevalence of antisemitic attitudes within the Labour Party than any other political party." There remains no evidence whatsoever that Corbyn himself has ever said or done anything even vaguely anti-Semitic.

The real issue of course is support for Palestinians and/or criticism of Israel, which a large and well-funded lobby have successfully transmogrified into antisemitism; ironically, conflating Israel to mean 'all Jews' is in itself a breach of the IHRA definitions, but that document seems to be useful only as a convenient stick with which to beat anti-Zionists.

The biggest con trick of a generation, whereby tens of thousands of perfectly decent people were labelled as anti-semites, in a concerted effort to destroy one man.

So sad and so true.

Seeing posters saying anti Zionism and anti semitism is the same thing is very Wong

Re: Millionaire N London Barrister leads Labour : Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:14 pm  

What happened to the islamophobia investigation all the Conservative contenders for leader agreed to including Johnson. It was quickly downgraded upon his election and not surprisingly was never mentioned in the right wing press. We heard of many members of the Conservative party being investigated for this very problem and let’s not forget who said they look like post boxes as one example.

Re: Millionaire N London Barrister leads Labour : Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:41 am  

bren2k wrote:

Perhaps because he knew it was all bo11ocks?

The sum total of 0.08% of the Labour membership resigned, were expelled or received formal warnings in relation to anti-Semitism, and the Home Affairs Select Committee concluded that there was "no reliable, empirical evidence to support the notion that there is a higher prevalence of antisemitic attitudes within the Labour Party than any other political party." There remains no evidence whatsoever that Corbyn himself has ever said or done anything even vaguely anti-Semitic.

The real issue of course is support for Palestinians and/or criticism of Israel, which a large and well-funded lobby have successfully transmogrified into antisemitism; ironically, conflating Israel to mean 'all Jews' is in itself a breach of the IHRA definitions, but that document seems to be useful only as a convenient stick with which to beat anti-Zionists.

The biggest con trick of a generation, whereby tens of thousands of perfectly decent people were labelled as anti-semites, in a concerted effort to destroy one man.

Spot on.

Re: Millionaire N London Barrister leads Labour : Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:15 am  

silver2 wrote:

Spot on.

What a better place we are for it. Hopefully the new Labour leadership will bring some credible opposition to Westminster.

Why didn't Jezza come out with the stats and facts you've presented to dispel what seems to be an overblown untruth.

Re: Millionaire N London Barrister leads Labour : Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:27 am  

I guess because the press would not report it, whose being naive again.

Re: Millionaire N London Barrister leads Labour : Sat Apr 11, 2020 2:01 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

What a better place we are for it. Hopefully the new Labour leadership will bring some credible opposition to Westminster.

Why didn't Jezza come out with the stats and facts you've presented to dispel what seems to be an overblown untruth.

The one absolute certainty is that Islamophobia is way more prevalent within the Troy Party than Anti-Semitism is/was within Labour.
However, the Tory press, who themselves like to peddle plenty of anti immigration headlines are somewhat more "sympathetic" toward Boris and the Tories.

They had decided that anti-Semitism was Corbyn's achilles heel and they never gave up with that line of attack.
Compare this to the stuff that Johnson himself has said and written over the years and the pattern of media output really isn't too difficult to follow.

Corbyn could have and should have dealt with the issue far better but, it still wouldn't have got him off the hook.
Meanwhile, Johnson remained bulletproof and still does.

Re: Millionaire N London Barrister leads Labour : Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:49 pm  

Wasn't there supposed to be an independent inquiry into antisemitism within the Labour party? Has it been published?

Re: Millionaire N London Barrister leads Labour : Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:34 pm  

Charlie Sheen wrote:

Wasn't there supposed to be an independent inquiry into antisemitism within the Labour party? Has it been published?

The EHRC inquiry started around May 2019 and is expected to take up to 2 years to complete. Strangely, that didnt satisfy our corrupt media who continued to pick away at the AS theme until just after they got the result they wanted at the 2019GE.

Re: Millionaire N London Barrister leads Labour : Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:40 pm  

silver2 wrote:

The EHRC inquiry started around May 2019 and is expected to take up to 2 years to complete. Strangely, that didnt satisfy our corrupt media who continued to pick away at the AS theme until just after they got the result they wanted at the 2019GE.

Ah that's why I didn't vote Labour. It was the Sun's fault. Grow up.

Re: Millionaire N London Barrister leads Labour : Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:21 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

Ah that's why I didn't vote Labour. It was the Sun's fault. Grow up.

Have you ever wondered why a successful businessman would continue with a loss making paper that provides right wing propaganda, targetted at the working classes?