Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Thu May 14, 2020 8:43 pm  

Willzay wrote:

There is literally no evidence for the argument that Labour would’ve done worse. No evidence whatsoever. It’s such a tiresome deflection tactic from the Tories’ despicable display of so called leadership.

And the evidence that they would have dealt with it better is what - very easy for anyone to question people’s actions when not in the firing line, just watch Piers Morgan

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Thu May 14, 2020 9:06 pm  

ColD wrote:

And the evidence that they would have dealt with it better is what - very easy for anyone to question people’s actions when not in the firing line, just watch Piers Morgan

They would have forced all the doctors and nurses to strike and then blame it on the tories like they always do lmao

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Thu May 14, 2020 10:33 pm  

ColD wrote:

And the evidence that they would have dealt with it better is what - very easy for anyone to question people’s actions when not in the firing line, just watch Piers Morgan

Unfortunately the current government and its leader have a history of telling lies. This has been underlined by their manipulation of the death and testing figures. Consequently the public no longer believe anything they say. Johnson and Cummings need to go. We need truth and we need leadership.

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Fri May 15, 2020 5:37 am  

silver2 wrote:

Unfortunately the current government and its leader have a history of telling lies. This has been underlined by their manipulation of the death and testing figures. Consequently the public no longer believe anything they say. Johnson and Cummings need to go. We need truth and we need leadership.

Although I absolutely agree with your comment regarding lack of trust, it's simply not true that "the public no longer believe anything they say".
The vast majority still have Boris as the blue eyed boy, who has personally dealt with the virus and will lead us through all of this.
It's only when the media turn against him that his popularity will fall and/or, when he makes a gaffe that wont be easily forgiven.

You would think that having the highest number of deaths of any European country and having ignored those in care homes would see him under more pressure but, we are still in the relatively early stages of this thing and he will be judged on the "recovery" both from the virus and then, the major test, the ecconomy.
Most Tories are still claiming that their triple lock on tax rises will remain so, it does look like it will be pensions (tax relief) and property that will be under pressure, followed by yet another long period of public sector wage freezes, a great reward for those who have kept working through the "lockdown" period and serving the public.
Clapping on a Thursday and then screwing them over for the rest of the time, oh the irony (bare faced double standards)

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Fri May 15, 2020 5:48 am  

ColD wrote:

And the evidence that they would have dealt with it better is what - very easy for anyone to question people’s actions when not in the firing line, just watch Piers Morgan

Interesting you bring Piers Morgan into it. I bet he's really got the rabid right wing crowd in a dilemma. He seems to be the only one in the media holding the government to account, admittedly in his trademark shock jock style, but isn't this what they love about him? They've been cheering him on over the past couple of years, when he's been ridiculing the vegans and sticking it to the millennials; "well said Piers", "I like Piers because he speaks his mind", "he says what everyone else is thinking". Now he's calling out the government they're all, "Piers is nothing but a bully", "get him off the telly", "SACK HIM!". It was glorious to watch them losing their minds when he grilled Andrew Bridgen. "I'm writing to OFCOM, this isn't fair!"

Piers Morgan has gone from hero to villain, and the baying right wing mob have gone from snowflake bashers to snowflakes in the space of weeks.

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Fri May 15, 2020 5:58 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Clapping on a Thursday and then screwing them over for the rest of the time

It won't be long until they can go back to their beloved stereotyping. "Lazy pen pushers, stealing a wage from the public purse, in an inefficient, bloated sector".

There are already morons who believe that NHS workers not specifically working on Covid-19 wards are 'stood about doing nothing'. The sheer stupidity beggars belief.

I don't think they'll be happy until we're like the USA, and personally bankrupted by unexpected illnesses.

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Fri May 15, 2020 10:22 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

It won't be long until they can go back to their beloved stereotyping. "Lazy pen pushers, stealing a wage from the public purse, in an inefficient, bloated sector".

There are already morons who believe that NHS workers not specifically working on Covid-19 wards are 'stood about doing nothing'. The sheer stupidity beggars belief.

I don't think they'll be happy until we're like the USA, and personally bankrupted by unexpected illnesses.

I'm looking forward to the excuses and yet more Tory nonsense of "we're all in this together" and yet, the MP's, having done very little for months, will be justifying their latest hefty pay increase because, its "what the pay review recommended".
How quickly Boris has forgotten that they very people that he owes his life to have been screwed by HIS party. Two faced ****

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Fri May 15, 2020 11:12 am  

You aren’t suppose to remember he was part of the previous government. I suppose it’s the same for his Northern Ireland border guarantees, his social care plan that doesn’t now exist and despite being proved to be a lie his government’s instructions regarding care home which being the honourable man he is will apologise to Parliament for misleading them (sorry I forgot it is Johnson we are talking about of course he won’t apologise.

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Fri May 15, 2020 11:33 am  

King Street Cat wrote:

Interesting you bring Piers Morgan into it. I bet he's really got the rabid right wing crowd in a dilemma. He seems to be the only one in the media holding the government to account, admittedly in his trademark shock jock style, but isn't this what they love about him? They've been cheering him on over the past couple of years, when he's been ridiculing the vegans and sticking it to the millennials; "well said Piers", "I like Piers because he speaks his mind", "he says what everyone else is thinking". Now he's calling out the government they're all, "Piers is nothing but a bully", "get him off the telly", "SACK HIM!". It was glorious to watch them losing their minds when he grilled Andrew Bridgen. "I'm writing to OFCOM, this isn't fair!"

Piers Morgan has gone from hero to villain, and the baying right wing mob have gone from snowflake bashers to snowflakes in the space of weeks.

The problem Morgan has history - his performance at Levenson was less than forthcoming - so he can hardly crow at ministers when they don't give straight answers without looking hypocritical? His interview style is flawed - he thinks when he askes a question he should get the answer he wants and he struggles when he doesn't so he simply interrupts so the interviewee simply cannot get a word in. He is not alone - Maitliss, Gurhy-Murthy, Snow, Naga they are all the same - Dan Walker and Andrew Neil are in a different class.

His show lacks balance - it has an agenda and it pushes it mercilessly - they never have a guest/expert on that doesn't support their agenda, they don't show comparisons, an example - on Wednesday they showed Victoria station to show how busy it was, perhaps if they had shown how it was in February it would give some perspective - but that would defeat their biased agenda. Morgan suggest he cares about all these dead people its rubbish he is like all these stars he is a narcissist - in the words of JFK "don't ask what I can do for you, want can you do for me"

Re: Deepest recession in 100 year ? : Fri May 15, 2020 11:35 am  

Steph Curry wrote:

They would have forced all the doctors and nurses to strike and then blame it on the tories like they always do lmao

Unlike the Tories who are killing doctors and nurses through a combination of a lack of proper funding for the NHS and their ridiculous, failed “herd” immunity plan.