FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Why do the Tories hate the NHS?
::Off-topic discussion.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star76No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 31 201112 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
16th Aug 20 12:389th Aug 20 21:24LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? : Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:40 pm  
I see the Brain Squad are out in force tonight.
RankPostsTeam
International Star5113
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 23 201410 years82nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
28th Mar 24 07:4126th Mar 24 21:35LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? : Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:36 pm  
You may use more words but I note that you still do not answer how the actions taken by Johnson to deal with the pandemic have reduced the number of excess deaths.
With regards PMQ’s Johnson is so incapable of thinking for himself that he still carried on with his pre prepared brief joke. The problem is that Starmer’s final question related to meeting those families of the NHS staff who had died and all Johnson could do was make a joke.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member18060No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 27 200222 years290th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
11th Jun 23 20:4411th Jun 23 20:53LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
On the road
Signature
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.

Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? : Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:26 am  
Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
At least he allowed Neil to interview him rather than dodging all attempts and finally hiding in a fridge. Why block a guarantee of no interference if as they said that no part of the NHS is for sale. I suppose you realise that drugs from America are more costly than those negotiated by the NHS therefore increasing the costs substantially. The next will be that we can no longer afford the NHS in its current form etc.


If we want the latest pharma especially for cancer treatment they come from the US - these drugs cost billions to develop - so you either deny patients the potentially life-extending drugs or you pay the lowest price you can negotiate. Are you suggesting that we will deliberately buy off patent generic drugs at a higher price from the US - seriously?
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member18060No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 27 200222 years290th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
11th Jun 23 20:4411th Jun 23 20:53LINK
Milestone Posts
15000
20000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
On the road
Signature
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.

Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? : Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:30 am  
Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
You may use more words but I note that you still do not answer how the actions taken by Johnson to deal with the pandemic have reduced the number of excess deaths.
With regards PMQ’s Johnson is so incapable of thinking for himself that he still carried on with his pre prepared brief joke. The problem is that Starmer’s final question related to meeting those families of the NHS staff who had died and all Johnson could do was make a joke.


I agree he hasn't come out of this pandemic with any credit but it is impossible to calculate the additional deaths if there has been any due to his actions.

Don't forget all patients discharged to care homes were done so on clinical grounds decisions that were made by trained doctors. This might have been due to pressure to protect the capability of the NHS?
IR80 
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2215No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 24 20195 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd Sep 20 02:4026th Aug 20 00:48LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? : Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:56 am  
Scarlet Pimpernell wrote:
You mean this question, let’s start with the initial delay in going into lockdown to allow the Liverpool game and the racing to go ahead. It is now admitted that this caused many unnecessary deaths, then we have the wheeze of transferring patients without having a test from hospitals to care homes. This was confirmed to have increased the number of unnecessary deaths.
I could go on regarding testing, the track and trace app and face coverings.
I now wait your answer to my question or like IR80 can you not list what comrade Johnson did to reduce the number of unnecessary deaths.

He followed the advice at the time, he didntn't have the luxury of a crystal ball to show him the hindsight that you are pathetically trying to use to judge him. But that is how you roll, it comes from limited intelligence and a gigantic chip on your shoulder.
RankPostsTeam
International Star5139No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 02 201113 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd Jul 21 12:383rd Jul 21 12:38LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? : Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:31 am  
IR80 wrote:
He followed the advice at the time, he didntn't have the luxury of a crystal ball to show him the hindsight that you are pathetically trying to use to judge him. But that is how you roll, it comes from limited intelligence and a gigantic chip on your shoulder.

That chip on his shoulder with limited intelligence is called Tovarisch wilsay :lol:
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star4641
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 25 201014 years185th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
17th Mar 24 08:2514th Mar 24 11:07LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
WF4
Signature
"Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him."

Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? : Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:57 am  
IR80 wrote:
a crystal ball to show him the hindsight


Nailed on that you'd be one of the 'hindsight' apologists.

To say you're one of those who claims to 'think for himself', you don't do much of it.
IR80 
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2215No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 24 20195 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd Sep 20 02:4026th Aug 20 00:48LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? : Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:06 am  
King Street Cat wrote:
Nailed on that you'd be one of the 'hindsight' apologists.

To say you're one of those who claims to 'think for himself', you don't do much of it.

and I could have predicted, without a crystal ball, that you'd have nothing of use to say.

any thoughts on the wonderful Labour Party, shall i start a thread, 'Why does Labour hate Jews'?

Ultimately we can all say, with the benefit of hindsight, what would have been done differently, but that achieves nothing. Trying to score political points in the midst of a global endemic virus is typical of the left wing, nothing to actually contribute, just yelping from the sidelines whilst the ELECTED GOVERNMENT gets on with it, it is as predictable as it is pathetic.
King Street Cat wrote:
Nailed on that you'd be one of the 'hindsight' apologists.

To say you're one of those who claims to 'think for himself', you don't do much of it.

and I could have predicted, without a crystal ball, that you'd have nothing of use to say.

any thoughts on the wonderful Labour Party, shall i start a thread, 'Why does Labour hate Jews'?

Ultimately we can all say, with the benefit of hindsight, what would have been done differently, but that achieves nothing. Trying to score political points in the midst of a global endemic virus is typical of the left wing, nothing to actually contribute, just yelping from the sidelines whilst the ELECTED GOVERNMENT gets on with it, it is as predictable as it is pathetic.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star4641
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 25 201014 years185th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
17th Mar 24 08:2514th Mar 24 11:07LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
WF4
Signature
"Back home we got a taxidermy man. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him."

Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? : Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:26 am  
IR80 wrote:
shall i start a thread, 'Why does Labour hate Jews'?


Feel free to do so. You can tell us all about it, as you seem to be the expert around here.
IR80 
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain2215No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 24 20195 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
3rd Sep 20 02:4026th Aug 20 00:48LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Why do the Tories hate the NHS? : Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:52 am  
King Street Cat wrote:
Feel free to do so. You can tell us all about it, as you seem to be the expert around here.

so, nothing meaningful or useful to say, at least you are consistent.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 175 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to The Sin Bin


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
6m
Smith - should he stay or should he go
ComeOnYouUll
351
10m
Squad for Catalan
Smiffy27
17
25m
The Good Friday Derby Massacre
ComeOnYouUll
126
44m
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Builth Wells
15
45m
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
34275
46m
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
55989
55m
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 6
steamy
32
56m
The official Leon Hayes Thread
fez1
17
Recent
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
Khlav Kalash
24
Recent
The Bulls away
terry silver
9
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
30s
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
55989
33s
21 man Squads - Devils v Leopards
Septimius Se
2
45s
The official Leon Hayes Thread
fez1
17
46s
The Good Friday Derby Massacre
ComeOnYouUll
126
48s
Saints a
Warrior Wing
21
1m
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Jack Burton
8703
2m
This weeks disciplinary
sir adrian m
1007
2m
Huddersfield - Home
Fartown58
6
2m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Zig
1933
2m
TV Games - Not Hull
WIZEB
1380
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Stats article
Sir Gregory
5
TODAY
21 man Squads - Devils v Leopards
Septimius Se
2
TODAY
Squad for Catalan
Smiffy27
17
TODAY
The Wigan Way - New Podcast - Chairman Special
Jukesays
1
TODAY
Dons v Swinton Lions 30 June 2024
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad for Sheffield
AdamH
1
TODAY
London Away
Fartown58
1
TODAY
The Bulls away
terry silver
9
TODAY
The official Leon Hayes Thread
fez1
17
TODAY
Saints a
Warrior Wing
21
TODAY
Leon Ruan signs on loan
Jemmo
2
TODAY
Wardle
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Huddersfield - Home
Fartown58
6
TODAY
Max Wood on loan to Bradford 2 weeks
rubber ducki
7
TODAY
Jake Wardle 5 Year deal
Zig
22
TODAY
No grade A for 2025 for Trinity
Khlav Kalash
24
TODAY
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangements
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Rd 6 I Cas A
Rockinhorse
21
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Catalans Home
Builth Wells
15
TODAY
Spare Tickets Friday
post
4
TODAY
RL Podcast
AgbriggAmble
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Cup Quarter Final TV Arrangeme..
499
2024 Challenge Cup Quarter Fin..
628
Easy Does It For The Dragons A..
551
Warrington Demolish London For..
660
Leigh Leopards Beat Plucky Fea..
707
Saints Triumph Over Disappoint..
686
Easy Win for the Wolves Over L..
932
Dragons Condemn Castleford To ..
906
Leigh Leopards Secure First Po..
1051
St Helens Tame The Rhinos To W..
1021
Wigan Warriors Come From Behin..
1076
Betfred Championship and Leagu..
1067
2024 Challenge Cup Sixth Round..
3839
Featherstone Win Extra Time Cu..
1189
Dragons Triumph Over Hull FC t..
1067
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Table 'boards.stats_fixtures' doesn't exist