Who is going to pay the bill ? : Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:18 am  

It looks like the time for balancing the books is about to start and all the talk is for the Tories to break another manifesto promise and raise National Insurance.
There are huge disagreements within the cabinet but, it's coming soon and will hit every worker in the country, apart from those who are exempt from paying NI.

With pensioners never having had it so good, they could well be next in line.

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:13 am  

I'm sure all our Tory (and new Tory) friends on here will agree that the answer is The Poor. It's only fair that everyone shares in the pain.

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:18 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

It looks like the time for balancing the books is about to start and all the talk is for the Tories to break another manifesto promise and raise National Insurance.
There are huge disagreements within the cabinet but, it's coming soon and will hit every worker in the country, apart from those who are exempt from paying NI.

With pensioners never having had it so good, they could well be next in line.

As regards pensioners, the tory propaganda machine is already at work.
There's a softening up process in place to get rid of the triple lock.

They'll have to tread carefull though, as most if their core support is from us coffin dodgers.

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:29 am  

Ovavoo wrote:

As regards pensioners, the tory propaganda machine is already at work.
There's a softening up process in place to get rid of the triple lock.

They'll have to tread carefull though, as most if their core support is from us coffin dodgers.

No need for ageism.

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:35 pm  

wrencat1873 wrote:

It looks like the time for balancing the books is about to start and all the talk is for the Tories to break another manifesto promise and raise National Insurance.
There are huge disagreements within the cabinet but, it's coming soon and will hit every worker in the country, apart from those who are exempt from paying NI.

With pensioners never having had it so good, they could well be next in line.

The answer is all of us to some degree. As for breaking a manifesto promise, come on, how on earth could they have predicted an expense like covid. Unless you are saying they should have had a crystal ball.

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:39 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

The answer is all of us to some degree. As for breaking a manifesto promise, come on, how on earth could they have predicted an expense like covid. Unless you are saying they should have had a crystal ball.

Are you crackers?
The tories crystal ball predicted no pandemic, so that’s why they ripped up the pandemic plan.
Tax avoiders must be made to pay, like The minister for the 18th century.

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:41 am  

When he became leader of the Conservatives and by default PM he stood outside number 10 and clearly stated he had a plan to sort out social care. When the election came along it was not detailed in the manifesto, definitely no reference to an NI increase. We must presume therefore unless he was fibbing that this was what his plan which was long before the pandemic. He is definitely breaking his manifesto promise but not for the first time but you cannot blame this on the pandemic because he had already stated he knew what he was going to do long before it arrived.

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:53 am  

Who pays national insurance? Working people.
Who votes Labour? Working people.

They're once again looking for younger people to pay for the costs of the destructive older generation who both had every advantage going over the past however many decades and who got us into the present state. Shameless really.

If we banned the retired from voting we'd be in a much better place as a country.

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:21 pm  

wotsupcas wrote:

The answer is all of us to some degree. As for breaking a manifesto promise, come on, how on earth could they have predicted an expense like covid. Unless you are saying they should have had a crystal ball.

This has nothing to do with a crystal ball and the increasing national debt, due to covid etc is still to be tackled.
The proposed increase in NI is purely to tackle the welfare crisis. There will be (way) more to come in terms of "tax" increases to pay down the substantially increased national debt.
Some of us have been suggesting for many months that, only when the debt is being cleared, will we find out Johnson and Sunak's strategy for paying down the debt.
The NI change is just the tip of the iceberg.
Vat is likely to be more palatable that any income tax hike but, we will soon see how "levelling up" actually works

Re: Who is going to pay the bill ? : Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:28 pm  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Who pays national insurance? Working people.
Who votes Labour? Working people.

They're once again looking for younger people to pay for the costs of the destructive older generation who both had every advantage going over the past however many decades and who got us into the present state. Shameless really.

If we banned the retired from voting we'd be in a much better place as a country.

I work and pay national insurance and don't vote Labour.
When I was younger I suppose I was paying for MY destructive older generation.
Swings and roundabouts.