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| I'm confused - just for the sake of summarising, are we now being asked to believe that:
1. the earth is flat and stationary
2. satellites are a figment of millions of imaginations, all working in sync to perpetuate a massive and pointless lie
3. space exploration and everything we know about the solar system and beyond is made up (see point 2)
4. Nuclear energy is actually just a big kettle, and it's all made up (see points 2&3)
5. Aeroplanes don't fly where we expect them to and all the data to suggest otherwise is made up (see points 2,3&4)
6. Gravity and Newtonian laws of physics are lies, made up and perpetuated by a secret society that has persisted through the ages to stop us believing in god
7. God is real
Have I missed anything?
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"Have I missed anything?'"
8. All terrorist attacks whether they be stabbings, shootings or bombings are 'false flags' or cleverly staged hoaxes.
9. All significant people in law, money, music, religion, politics, royalty, government, business, entertainment, media, news, whether past or present, are involved in secret societies or secret brotherhoods.
10. All wars have been manipulated by the above, including Bobby Davro and Kenn Dodd.
11. 1-10 can all be traced back to the Freemasons and it's been going on for nearly a thousand years.
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| Quote King Street Cat="King Street Cat"8. All terrorist attacks whether they be stabbings, shootings or bombings are 'false flags' or cleverly staged hoaxes.
9. All significant people in law, money, music, religion, politics, royalty, government, business, entertainment, media, news, whether past or present, are involved in secret societies or secret brotherhoods.
10. All wars have been manipulated by the above, including Bobby Davro and Kenn Dodd.
[i[u11. 1-10 can all be traced back to the Freemasons and it's been going on for nearly a thousand years[/u[/i.'"
Couldn't of explained it better 
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| But why?
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Quote bren2k="bren2k"I'm confused - just for the sake of summarising, are we now being asked to believe that:
1. the earth is flat and stationary
2. satellites are a figment of millions of imaginations, all working in sync to perpetuate a massive and pointless lie
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The satellites are not actually a figment of imagination though. How NASA does this, I can't imagine, but they must have these infinitely powered holographic projectors all over the entire world, which beam fake images of thousands of orbiting satellites into the night sky, so that of the 0.1% (or whatever of the population who ever bother to look for them, and of those, the 0.1% who go further and want to check the satellites position, direction and brightness against the permanently available ephemera, it will all, precisely, correspond!
This really is a technological feat. You have some monster holographic globe=wide setup, entirely hidden permanently from view, which yet somehow manages to transmit perfectly calibrated images of thousands of satellites, without fail, to the second, wherever you are on the planet. For no purpose, given that 99.9999% of the world's population have not the faintest interest in any of the satellites.
It is truly mindbendingly impressive, almost as impressive as it is utterly pointless. I mean, for some reason the prediction is that the sky watching conditions tonight will be good. If so, and if you are in Leeds, here is a full list of all the "satellites" you will be able to watch with your own eyes, in a reasonably clear and reasonably dark sky, around teatime. Each will appear precisely when and wher predicted, be visible for exactly the period predicted, and exit your view precisley as predicted. Why, they even tell you what each object is!
These mind you are just the brighter ones which you have a chance of seeing with the naked eye.
You can easily download a list personal to your location on the planet from the excellent and free www.heavens-above.com
It really is a fantastic resource.
I think it is wonderful that they go to all this trouble, don't you?

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Quote bren2k="bren2k"I'm confused - just for the sake of summarising, are we now being asked to believe that:
1. the earth is flat and stationary
2. satellites are a figment of millions of imaginations, all working in sync to perpetuate a massive and pointless lie
..'"
The satellites are not actually a figment of imagination though. How NASA does this, I can't imagine, but they must have these infinitely powered holographic projectors all over the entire world, which beam fake images of thousands of orbiting satellites into the night sky, so that of the 0.1% (or whatever of the population who ever bother to look for them, and of those, the 0.1% who go further and want to check the satellites position, direction and brightness against the permanently available ephemera, it will all, precisely, correspond!
This really is a technological feat. You have some monster holographic globe=wide setup, entirely hidden permanently from view, which yet somehow manages to transmit perfectly calibrated images of thousands of satellites, without fail, to the second, wherever you are on the planet. For no purpose, given that 99.9999% of the world's population have not the faintest interest in any of the satellites.
It is truly mindbendingly impressive, almost as impressive as it is utterly pointless. I mean, for some reason the prediction is that the sky watching conditions tonight will be good. If so, and if you are in Leeds, here is a full list of all the "satellites" you will be able to watch with your own eyes, in a reasonably clear and reasonably dark sky, around teatime. Each will appear precisely when and wher predicted, be visible for exactly the period predicted, and exit your view precisley as predicted. Why, they even tell you what each object is!
These mind you are just the brighter ones which you have a chance of seeing with the naked eye.
You can easily download a list personal to your location on the planet from the excellent and free www.heavens-above.com
It really is a fantastic resource.
I think it is wonderful that they go to all this trouble, don't you?

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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"I think it is wonderful that they go to all this trouble, don't you?'"
Yes I do - and I still want to know why; what possible benefit could there be to the worldwide secret society of Freemasons who've been collectively pulling the wool over our sheep-like eyes for centuries, if the world's population suddenly found out that space isn't real? If it isn't real, why create and perpetuate the most complicated cover-up job ever conceived?
I don't get it.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"The holographic globe=wide setup'"
You mean disc-wide?
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| Quote bren2k="bren2k"Yes I do - and I still want to know why; what possible benefit could there be to the worldwide secret society of Freemasons who've been collectively pulling the wool over our sheep-like eyes for centuries, if the world's population suddenly found out that space isn't real? If it isn't real, why create and perpetuate the most complicated cover-up job ever conceived?
I don't get it.'"
That's the key question to the Flat-Earthers. Why? Why bother? What's the point?
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"You have some monster holographic globe=wide setup, entirely hidden permanently from view, which yet somehow manages to transmit perfectly calibrated images of thousands of satellites, without fail, to the second, wherever you are on the planet. '"
I'm interested to know how they project through the big ice walls, or are we missing something? Do they project onto the big ice walls?  Are we really ice bound in a complex Truman Show?
I'm sure the flat one will be along soon with another batch of YouTube videos to show us how it all works.
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| [iPlease find me an authentic piece of evidence that shows the earth from space without fisheye lenses or CGI goodluck. You'd think all that NASA junk orbiting the so called Globe could produce ONE single authentic footage except for [/i[url=https://youtu.be/l7BhcufC-5Y?t=643THIS.[/url [iproving Beautiful flat horizon.[/i
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| Would it not be better for all concerned on here to give the paranoid posters there own proper section on the main boards as, let's face it, there's very little science or technology being posted by them in the 'Science & Technology' sub-section? Or at least stick this thread in the Sin Bin with the other nonsense threads.
Just a thought.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"[i[uThe satellites are not actually a figment of imagination though. How NASA does this,[/u[/i I can't imagine, but they must have these infinitely powered holographic projectors all over the entire world, which beam fake images of thousands of orbiting satellites into the night sky, so that of the 0.1% (or whatever of the population who ever bother to look for them, and of those, the 0.1% who go further and want to check the satellites position, direction and brightness against the permanently available ephemera, it will all, precisely, correspond! '"
Copy, Paste, Repeat.Thought you had finished posting on the Lunatic thread anyway.
Quote Ferocious AardvarkFLAT STANLEY Wrote:[i As my research has indicated there are a plethora of platforms that can mimic satellite utility, so lets review.
1. Land-based technologies. Loran (long range navigation). 2. GPS uses Cell-tower triangulation not Satellites
3. High Altitude Airships (HAA) 4. High Altitude Platforms (HAP)
5. Lighter-than-air vehicles (LAV) 6. High Altitude Long Endurance (HALE)
7. High Altitude Long Operation (HALO) 8. StratSat
9. Airborne Relay Communication (ARC) 10. HeliPlat which connects to the HeliNet System
11. High Altitude Shuttle System (HASS) 12. Small Balloon Systems (SBS)
13. Nano Balloon Systems (NBS) 14. Google Loon System
15. Stratospheric Platform Systems (SPS) 16. High Altitude Long Endurance Demonstrator (HALE-D)
17 Undersea Cable 18. DARPA Integrated Sensor is Structure or ISIS
So as you see there are at least 18 platforms that can be used independently, in tandem or groups to provide all the services that satellites supposedly provide. The most glaring aspect of satellite fakery is cost. All 18 platforms I've mentioned are substantially more cost-efficient than satellites and inherently more reliable. It makes no sense to continually risk hurling satellites into space if more cost-efficient, reliable and readily maintainable terrestrial systems already exist, which they do, the dubious existence of satellites is even more definitive since NASA cannot furnish a single actual photo or video footage of real satellites.[/i
=#800000[i[uWhich is more probable. That satellites exist but NASA seems incapable of confirming their existence or simply they do not exist at all? Occam's Razor makes it simple, they don't exist at all.[/u[/i
I await the next batch of cranial insults and the tongue twisted comedy'" [i Simples[/i 
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