Re: Flight tracking : Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:02 pm  

whothefeckisalice wrote:

Ive been a silent viewer of these boards for many years. I was tickled into joining this particular forum as certain topics besides my beloved Leigh Centurions Thread tickled my fancy. I was obviously drawn to the Nuclear thread where I have a strong family interest within that field, but as I read through most of the off topic threads Its damn right clear as snow that theres a massive sway of anti Stanley screeches. The stick hes swallowed is absolutely diabolical. Theres an outright type of racism or bullying being portrayed throughout these threads with mainly one perpetrator pulling the strings just for having a varied outlook on life.

Oh by the way them photos look disputable. Im not laughing at you Stan Im laughing at the childish wiffle waffle. HeHe

I'm not sure what your definition of racism is, but having never met Stanley and never discussed race, mention race, or say anything remotely connected to it at any point (Both him and me) or seen anyone else do so no matter how much they've argued. I'm struggling to think that you have a flair for the dramatic or a different definition.

As for bullying, well, I'm pretty sure Stanley can hold his own and has never, that I've seen, taken offence to the point of it causing mental harm. What actually happens is that Stanley and others become heated over a topic, idea, or point and passionately argue the finer points. If having your idea or beliefs mocked, questioned, or doubted offends you then it means your ideas and beliefs struggle to stand up to scrutiny. If people can't question an idea it leads to a rocky road where we all don't want to go down.

That's not bullying, it's common sense.

If you post something in a public forum then you are inviting discourse on that subject. If you don't like that then maybe a public forum isn't the place for you.

Re: Flight tracking : Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:57 pm  

I invite someone to watch the ISS with their own eyes. They ignore the invitation, instead clinging to denial that it "doesn't exist". As anyone can see it, this really is the debating equivalent of fingers in ears and nah nah nah. hey ho

Re: Flight tracking : Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:05 am  

whothefeckisalice wrote:

Ive been a silent viewer of these boards for many years. I was tickled into joining this particular forum as certain topics besides my beloved Leigh Centurions Thread tickled my fancy. I was obviously drawn to the Nuclear thread where I have a strong family interest within that field, but as I read through most of the off topic threads Its damn right clear as snow that theres a massive sway of anti Stanley screeches. The stick hes swallowed is absolutely diabolical. Theres an outright type of racism or bullying being portrayed throughout these threads with mainly one perpetrator pulling the strings just for having a varied outlook on life.

Oh by the way them photos look disputable. Im not laughing at you Stan Im laughing at the childish wiffle waffle. HeHe

Anti-Stanley? That is a bit ridiculous. I am anti the idiotic nonsense he either believes or trolls, but obviously respond to the points that he chooses to make. If he's not trolling, he's deluded, and if so it does him no favours to pretend he isn't delusional. It's not a "varied outlook on life", it's just fruitbat drivel. But that blunt message apart, I address the issues, in quite a bit of detail, and not Stanley, whom I wouldn't know from Adam.

Yes, Stan does try to bully people, but that's his way, and his rudeness and bluster is an irrelevance really, he only does it to get out of responding to things he can't answer.

That said, I started this thread, dealing with the technology of flight tracking. It was Stanley who jumped in with his theories, not the other way around. I've just responded to them. Wasn't my idea to get into his stuff, but I don't have any obligation to let it pass unchallenged.

As for "racism" ... WTF?

PS - snow's not clear. It's pretty opaque. But it is made of ice, which is clear. I blame NASA for this hoax.

Re: Flight tracking : Sat Jan 16, 2016 11:41 am  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Anti-Stanley? That is a bit ridiculous. I am anti the idiotic nonsense he either believes or trolls, but obviously respond to the points that he chooses to make. If he's not trolling, he's deluded, and if so it does him no favours to pretend he isn't delusional. It's not a "varied outlook on life", it's just fruitbat drivel. But that blunt message apart, I address the issues, in quite a bit of detail, and not Stanley, whom I wouldn't know from Adam..

Firstly with the above abuse, you've just proven to everyone what a great example to the term immaturity.

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Yes, Stan does try to bully people, but that's his way, and his rudeness and bluster is an irrelevance really, he only does it to get out of responding to things he can't answer. .

Again more personal insult.and twisted angst. Bully hahaha i've never bullied anyone in my life, the above posts illustrate you're the aggressor. As for trolling i certainly expose the lies is that trolling. No..

Ferocious Aardvark Wrote That said, I started this thread, dealing with the technology of flight tracking. It was Stanley who jumped in with his theories, not the other way around. I've just responded to them. Wasn't my idea to get into his stuff, but I don't have any obligation to let it pass unchallenged.

I challenged and proved to you about Flight tracking data, then you got on your high horse about Satellites which again i proved are hoaxed, then you bring up Tim Peake, then you added fake google composites to the thread, The Butcher apologetically derailed the thread not me, so it's you who's getting muddled up with your tongue twisted copy and paste not me, i'm just pointing out your flawed reasoning.

Ferocious Aardvark Wrote As for "racism" ... WTF?

Reading the hatred vitriol above and also other threads you've proven and continued a discriminative dialogue throughout our exchanges. I'm the one who's risen to just laugh off your childish sticks and stones. So there you go, your hole just keeps getting bigger with the tirades of vitriol abuse proving how weak your argument really is.

Re: Flight tracking : Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:07 pm  

TheButcher wrote:

I'm not sure what your definition of racism is, but having never met Stanley and never discussed race, mention race, or say anything remotely connected to it at any point (Both him and me) or seen anyone else do so no matter how much they've argued. I'm struggling to think that you have a flair for the dramatic or a different definition..

Ican't speak for (WTFIA) but i believe discrimination is the right analogy. Search the threads its pure vitriol angst. At first i foolishly lowered myself to his/her level, however now i just expose his/her reasoning and vitriolic immaturity.

TheButcher Wrote As for bullying, well, I'm pretty sure Stanley can hold his own and has never, that I've seen, taken offence to the point of it causing mental harm. What actually happens is that Stanley and others become heated over a topic, idea, or point and passionately argue the finer points. If having your idea or beliefs mocked, questioned, or doubted offends you then it means your ideas and beliefs struggle to stand up to scrutiny. If people can't question an idea it leads to a rocky road where we all don't want to go down. That's not bullying, it's common sense.

The latter part of the Paris thread proved his ignorance and discriminative attitude but i let by gones be by gones i don't bare grudges. I forgive his/her flawed traits.

Re: Flight tracking : Sat Jan 16, 2016 2:04 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

I invite someone to watch the ISS with their own eyes. They ignore the invitation, instead clinging to denial that it "doesn't exist". As anyone can see it, this really is the debating equivalent of fingers in ears and nah nah nah. hey ho

I don't need to watch i've already observed the fraud. I think it is a total hoax. Russia, Canada, China, and Japan are all in on it together. The videos of the astronauts brainwashing the youth sickens me. Our Government run media conforming to this sickens me. It's just like back with the fake moon landings. The videos are nothing but pure entertainment propaganda and distraction. They are made to reinforce the deception and make everyone believe we are advancing in space.

Some questions I have: Regarding the ISS

keep in mind during ISS videos and space walks the earth is moving around the sun at 18 miles per second and spinning on its own at 1,000 mph, and the ISS at 17,000 mph but everything looks completely still.
Simples they both aren't moving
[i]why not MANY camera's on live feed rather than just one. With 360° Trajectory to prove their location.[/i]
Because many cameras would expose their lies, the less they show the less they know.
why we never see Star Constellations, Moon, Sun, Mars, Venus and the 3500 orbiting Satellites Etc... in the screen shots.
Because if they show constellations they can be recorded to their true location exposing the scam.
Why they never point their fisheye lenses at the Stars or Moon Always just earth and astronauts.
To focus on the false curvature, mind control. They can't show Sun and Moon shots in a pool.
why is most of the view of earth obstructed by ISS
Again fixating the mind control with CGI.
why is earth usually water, no land mass on all shots.
Because its not a real image they'd have to get the land masses exact to realtime for cloud cover getting this wrong would expose the fraud.
I don't see the earth's tilted axis. Never.
Because it ain't tilted.
Why in most pictures and videos of Spacewalk's do we see the curve of the earth. Seems too convenient.
Exactly again its all Green Screen mind control fixating on the curve
where are all the satellites in the pics and live feed
Elusive. You tell me.
where are the 3600 pieces of space junk NASA says orbits the earth in these clips.and live feed.
Again so evasive.
why in interviews with astronauts do they never point the camera out the window to show us earth.
Because its Green Screen pre recorded interview from a studio.
Why don’t they ever take a weekend trip to the moon.
Impossible reality.
With no gravity to keep food down, how does it go and stay down
Impossible.
What happens to sweat from exercising
Very Smelly place
ZERO privacy for six months. Serious mental risk.
Exactly it'd be too hostile
No shower for six months.
Skin disorders no doubt.
How is Oxygen regenerated.
It Can't Simples
Their videos are all ENTERTAINMENT based, not science based.
Mind Control based.
Ten people drown EVERY day, yet no deaths in space. We are comfortable here on earth and there is a second chance for air if you’re under water. There are NO second chances in space. It is a totally foreign and very hostile environment. It's like they want us to think humans are indestructible.

How come we don't see the earths spin from the ISS.
Good Question
Spacewalks travelling 5 MPS in pure vacuum is laughable and impossible.
True

I believe the outcome of a biological entity's exposure to the vacuum of space has only ever been communicated by accounts referenced and never demonstrated to the public. I always found this as a morbid curiosity that has gone unanswered.
Again we saw BUBBLES in space and the morbid excuse was quickly endorsed.
Green Screen shot in a pool.
The ISS is looking more and more like Comedy Central, day by day.

Re: Flight tracking : Sat Jan 16, 2016 4:41 pm  

The big problem here is that if an unshakable religious conviction drives your ideology, in this case religious literalism with a flat earth, then absolutely nothing would convince you if it contradicts that view. Hard facts and evidence matter not because it's the view that fuels the rest of it. You can't possibly remain on the fence with anything you research or look into because you rely on an unshakable belief, and when I say belief I mean constructing your worldview around something with no evidence to start with. Actual evidence is easily ignored, constructed, or bent to fit your view rather than the evidence shaping the belief if your starting point is something without evidence to begin with.

If you were absolutely, genuinely going to go where the evidence leads then you need to start with the base belief that fuels the rest, in this case a religious interpretation of the earth and universe. If you can't be honest at the start, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you feel, then it becomes easier and easier to discount anything that challenges that view.

For me, the ramblings of a Bronze-age desert nomadic people are no longer valid passages on explaining the universe after all we've learned and discovered and actually know. Because of your natural bias to religion I feel it a pointless exercise to carry on contributing to threads that are clearly flying against your core belief.

I'm not going to shake your beliefs, Stanley. Only you can do that. Until you genuinely do that I can't contribute anything to your conversation.

Cheers.

Re: Flight tracking : Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:23 pm  

Stan, as you ignore the obvious yet again, just one night, do look up and watch the ISS. Then you will KNOW it is there, because you can watch it. NASA doesn't know where you are, or when you will be looking, so can't fake it to fool you.

How do they breathe? Here - a cut'n'paste mugs guide just for you:

Electrolysis of water (H2O) is the main method to generate oxygen aboard the ISS. Water is split into oxygen (O2) and hydrogen (H2). The oxygen is vented into the breathable cabin air system, known as the Oxygen Generation System, while the explosive hydrogen is vented externally.

The station’s football-field-sized solar arrays are the power source to electrolyse the water. Each day the OGS continuously provides between 2.3 and 9kg (5 to 20lbs) of oxygen. The OGS is a component of the ISS life support system, known as ECLSS or Environmental Control and Life Support System, located in the US Destiny module. The Elektron system aboard the Russian Zvezda service module performs the same vital electrolysis service for the ISS crew. The Electron system was also used aboard the Russian Mir Space Station.

Pressurised oxygen storage tanks replenished by visiting unmanned cargo ships provide a backup to the electrolysis method. Finally, the crew can also generate oxygen chemically by igniting Solid Fuel Oxygen Generation (SFOG) canisters comprised of lithium perchlorate. Each canister provides the oxygen needed to support one crew member for one day.

If you don't believe in electrolysis, it's facile to set up your own home experiment and prove it for yourself.

But, just watching the ISS pass over would be an important baby step for you. Once you can bring yourself to see with your own eyes, unadulterated, that there it is, then your climb out of you pit of religious delusion can begin.

But if you won't look, what can we do?

Re: Flight tracking : Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:25 pm  

TheButcher wrote:

The big problem here is that if an unshakable religious conviction drives your ideologyin this case religious literalism with a flat earth, then absolutely nothing would convince you if it contradicts that view

This is not the case at all.You're simply trying to psycho analyse me which is pathetic. Yes i believe in a Creator and Geocentrism supports this fact but the fallacy and lack of authentic evidence of the spinning ball theory is what spurs my core belief. Nothing can shake your true heliocentric view which is a bit hypocritical coming from you. You explained to me that that you're a 100% evidence type of guy and 99% is not good enough for you to swallow. Well there's holes as big as craters if you could be arsed to scrutinize NASA but you dismiss the evidence on this. Again how hypocritical of you.

Re: Flight tracking : Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:39 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: Stan, as you ignore the obvious yet again, just one night, do look up and watch the ISS. Then you will KNOW it is there, because you can watch it. NASA doesn't know where you are, or when you will be looking, so can't fake it to fool you.? Copy, paste, repeat. If NASA said they landed on the Sun you'd swallow it...look up hologram technology. Its quite fascinating technology, great for hoaxing people like you. It's NASA's Baby this technology. Also checkout Project Bluebeam. And before the usual cranial insults are bellowed checkout this NASA scientists Testimony His words not mine.

Ferocious Aardvark wrote: Stan, as you ignore the obvious yet again, just one night, do look up and watch the ISS. Then you will KNOW it is there, because you can watch it. NASA doesn't know where you are, or when you will be looking, so can't fake it to fool you.? Copy, paste, repeat. If NASA said they landed on the Sun you'd swallow it...look up hologram technology. Its quite fascinating technology, great for hoaxing people like you. It's NASA's Baby this technology. Also checkout Project Bluebeam. And before the usual cranial insults are bellowed checkout this NASA scientists Testimony His words not mine.