Re: AT LAST - SL FRANCHISE DECISION : Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:23 pm  

Bubba wrote:

Was thinking about this today and the whole 'speculative' thing. Maybe the details in Fax's bid were so unrealistically speculative (no chance of hitting the proposed targets) that the RFL had no option but throw it out.

Well that may have been so but seeing as how they had our application in Jan and we were in the mix with Widnes who (quite rightly ) got the nod.Why were we then told our application was good enough to go into another bid with the Super League teams.
Surely it would have been better all round if the RFL had said our application was not good enough when Barrow was told thiers wasn`t .The point was they needed some other club in the mix so as we could be used to prod the Wakeys , Cass etc into doing something about their stadiums.So in actual fact they had no intention of allowing us in this time I sometimes feel as if the Champ Clubs should just concentrate on being the best they possibly can be in this division and stop trying to play the RFLs game. Don`t accept dual regs and all that nonsense and stick together on it.

Re: AT LAST - SL FRANCHISE DECISION : Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:23 pm  

I agree with that and thats why RL is flawed, because its all about nothing to do with what happens on the field. But regardless of Fax's protests in the days following the decision, maybe we should just accept that the bid wasnt up to it.

Re: AT LAST - SL FRANCHISE DECISION : Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:45 pm  

What I cant understand is why the RFL allowed or said Fax was fit for SL in the first round when clearly we wasnt. The whole pantomime from the RFL and the rubbish they spouted about Stadiums, Crusaders fiasco has made me feel I wouldnt trust them as far as I could throw Nigel Wood.The whole thing is a farce both from the RFL and Fax. Wakefield should not be in SL and realistically the game doesnt have 14 teams fit for SL and we should just have 12 teams there for now. The RFL should have realized this during the past 3 years. Crusaders a disaster waiting to happen with Nigel Wood and co knowing how bad the problem was but ignoring it. The RFL knew Wakefield had major problems months ago and knew they needed a 14th team so have believed more rubbish from Wakefield and allowed them to stay which was wrong. Hull KR, Salford, Bradford, Quins/London are hardly in great shape. Fax were right to question Wakefield being in SL as they dont belong there, sadly neither do we at the moment.

I cant knock the effort, time and energy invested by the BOD but maybe when doing the application they should have got Professionals in to not just do it but to advise on what was realistic and what needed more investment in. Its easier said than done but maybe its something the club needs to look at next time if we are serious about SL. But to have a go at the BOD is maybe too easy. Where are all these people that used to turn up to follow Fax? Does the town deserve a SL club when it has less than 2000 fans who can be bothered to support a top trophy winning team?

Re: AT LAST - SL FRANCHISE DECISION : Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:52 pm  

The Lucky Black Cat wrote:

Does the town deserve a SL club when it has less than 2000 fans who can be bothered to support a top trophy winning team?

That's the most damning thing about the last three years. Calderdale folk are dismal sports followers.

Re: AT LAST - SL FRANCHISE DECISION : Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:52 pm  

Get 4,000 regulars at the Shay , become part of a Championship club merchandise deal , encourage away support via subsidized travel , and start getting value for money out of your Community dept

And it won't matter who does your application

Re: AT LAST - SL FRANCHISE DECISION : Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:37 pm  

Starbug wrote:

Get 4,000 regulars at the Shay , become part of a Championship club merchandise deal , encourage away support via subsidized travel , and start getting value for money out of your Community dept

And it won't matter who does your application

Who outside SL will ever get those kind of crowds I ask you?
Nobody as Fev and Leigh both have had great seasons yet still have crowds way below 3K, Fevs have been terrible for such a good side.
It aint gonna happen now with Widnes going up and Crusaders coming down, who takes fans in any numbers to away games in our league? Only us, Fev and Leigh now, the rest take about 50 tops to away games.
My fear is nobody will even get the required 2500 in future!
Yet SL clubs can get whatever crowds they like as they don't have any minimum to achieve???

Re: AT LAST - SL FRANCHISE DECISION : Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:57 pm  

Fax4Life wrote:

Who outside SL will ever get those kind of crowds I ask you?
Nobody as Fev and Leigh both have had great seasons yet still have crowds way below 3K, Fevs have been terrible for such a good side.
It aint gonna happen now with Widnes going up and Crusaders coming down, who takes fans in any numbers to away games in our league? Only us, Fev and Leigh now, the rest take about 50 tops to away games.
My fear is nobody will even get the required 2500 in future!
Yet SL clubs can get whatever crowds they like as they don't have any minimum to achieve???

Not saying it is easy , but it has to be the aim , as it is the only way that any of us will ever progress