lee greenwood : Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:21 am  

so lee greenwood has followed karl to the shay from batley does that mean damian ball wont be here next year

Re: lee greenwood : Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:41 am  

I would like to see Ball and Greenwood as assistants coaches. I think both have much to add but in different ways. I think Damian has shown he is a quality coach noit just with Fax since MC left but look at his record with Brooksbank. I feel Ball is needed despite allegedly Lee Greenwood coming back to Fax. I am not sure others will be around though that were with MC.

Re: lee greenwood : Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:19 pm  

The Lucky Black Cat wrote:

I would like to see Ball and Greenwood as assistants coaches. I think both have much to add but in different ways. I think Damian has shown he is a quality coach noit just with Fax since MC left but look at his record with Brooksbank. I feel Ball is needed despite allegedly Lee Greenwood coming back to Fax. I am not sure others will be around though that were with MC.

Much as I think Bally has done a great job I don`t think it would be right to have two assistant coaches and as Karl has fetched Lee with him we should respect his descision on this one. I would not want to lose Bally though and I would hope he will stop and help with the Under 23s ,I think they could very well produce some very good players in a year or two if they work together.
I know towards the latter end of the season Holroyd helped out when he decided to retire but I would let him go and have Gonzales and Ball.

Re: lee greenwood : Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:04 pm  

Someone was telling me that Gonzales is respected within the game for the work he does around stats and that, I'd imagine he'll be around in some capacity next season,

What is his official Job Role anyway?

As for Ball i'd like to see him stay as well, if not as assistant but in another role, has plenty to offer

Re: lee greenwood : Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:41 pm  

Brew wrote:

Someone was telling me that Gonzales is respected within the game for the work he does around stats and that, I'd imagine he'll be around in some capacity next season,

What is his official Job Role anyway?

As for Ball i'd like to see him stay as well, if not as assistant but in another role, has plenty to offer

Gonzo is PPM ( player performance manager )
I can vouch for Martin's credentials having worked very closely with him until around a year ago on the youth development at Halifax RLFC. He is ragrded very highly within the pro game with people who I talk to & you wouldn't believe the number of lads who have returned to the club this season to play for him in our U23's squad after looking for pastures new & things not working out for them.
For the club to move forward, this man is an absolute must keep.

Re: lee greenwood : Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:07 pm  

I thought Ball let himself down with his comments yesterday. The guff that he came out with about contracts made me cringe. Its not unusual for clubs to negotiate with players before the end of the season so why is this one different? Also the players who have been given contracts deserve them by the looks of it. The players that havnt, well, theres probably a reason for that and yesterday was the last chance for many of them to impress - They failed miserably and we should thank them for their service and wish them all the best at their new clubs.

Re: lee greenwood : Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:04 pm  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

...... yesterday was the last chance for many of them to impress - They failed miserably

.... but that was never gonna happen. You can't base a new contract on one performance. IMO everyone knew what was what and nothing was gonna change it. Hence the dire performance. Just like the Widnes players shutting shop.

Re: lee greenwood : Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:20 am  

marillion man wrote:

Gonzo is PPM ( player performance manager )
I can vouch for Martin's credentials having worked very closely with him until around a year ago on the youth development at Halifax RLFC. He is ragrded very highly within the pro game with people who I talk to & you wouldn't believe the number of lads who have returned to the club this season to play for him in our U23's squad after looking for pastures new & things not working out for them.
For the club to move forward, this man is an absolute must keep.

100% agree.

I've known Martin for probably 15/16 years right from his involvement in the amateur juniors right through to him joining the club. Hes a class act and as MM says has the respect of more or less everyone who works with him.

A must keep indeed.