Re: Cant believe they will be allowed to stay in SL : Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:41 am  

littlerich wrote:

I think MM is alluding to the fact that those clubs get cack all as it is now, ergo they'll lose cack all if they breakaway. Kapish?

Not true.

What about government funding for development work for a start ? They do get some Sky money as well.

And they won't breakaway.

Re: Cant believe they will be allowed to stay in SL : Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:10 pm  

griff1998 wrote:

Not true.

What about government funding for development work for a start ? They do get some Sky money as well.

And they won't breakaway.

You will be closer to the facts than most, how much funding would a club get for 'development' and would Sheffield get the same as Leigh for example?, Is this funding provided by the RFL? Do they enter a single bid for the sport or can it be achieved at local bid level? Would a breakaway reduce the RFL's capacity to get grants?

The Central fund is 90k per club. Taking your biggest fixtures to a Thursday is not fan friendly and probably costs 30k pa, if we get 4 more fixtures as a result of the breakaway then the 90k can be covered. The potential losers are clubs with no ambition reliant on rfl handouts - go for it imho!!!!!

Re: Cant believe they will be allowed to stay in SL : Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:28 pm  

maurice wrote:

You will be closer to the facts than most, how much funding would a club get for 'development' and would Sheffield get the same as Leigh for example?, Is this funding provided by the RFL? Do they enter a single bid for the sport or can it be achieved at local bid level? Would a breakaway reduce the RFL's capacity to get grants?

My understanding is that you bid for areas. You cover the work to be done, there's a surplus which goes towards your overheads.

The Central fund is 90k per club. Taking your biggest fixtures to a Thursday is not fan friendly and probably costs 30k pa, if we get 4 more fixtures as a result of the breakaway then the 90k can be covered. The potential losers are clubs with no ambition reliant on rfl handouts - go for it imho!!!!!

Agree in part but four more fixtures is four more sets of wages, two more ground rents, two more buses yet only two more gates. The extra fixtures may well be in the middle of winter which won't help the gates. Or in pairs over the bank holidays - which isn't great for the players. Be prepared for coaches' - quite justifiable - moaning about injuries.

If matches make money, why bother with lotteries, sportsmen's dinners and RFL handouts ? Just play more games ...

Re: Cant believe they will be allowed to stay in SL : Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:51 pm  

maurice wrote:

I class Barrow, Haven, Town, Leigh, Oldham, Rochdale, Fax, Fev, Batley, Sheffield, Keighley, Dewsbury and Swinton as a good break away comp. The SL tie ups will only be of interest to the dead clubs of Hunslet, York, Gateshead, Skolars, South and North Wales and the new boys in C1.

Break away, and do it now - they are fooked if we do. If my club accepts a tie up then I have walked from the game. We must force change together.

Re: Cant believe they will be allowed to stay in SL : Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:00 pm  

griff1998 wrote:

My understanding is that you bid for areas. You cover the work to be done, there's a surplus which goes towards your overheads.

Agree in part but four more fixtures is four more sets of wages, two more ground rents, two more buses yet only two more gates. The extra fixtures may well be in the middle of winter which won't help the gates. Or in pairs over the bank holidays - which isn't great for the players. Be prepared for coaches' - quite justifiable - moaning about injuries.

If matches make money, why bother with lotteries, sportsmen's dinners and RFL handouts ? Just play more games ...

So would Sheffield get more development money than Leigh ? , that was the question

Matches at Leigh do make money, do they make any money for Sheffield ?

Re: Cant believe they will be allowed to stay in SL : Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:58 am  

Starbug wrote:

So would Sheffield get more development money than Leigh ? , that was the question

How would I know ?

Matches at Leigh do make money, do they make any money for Sheffield ?

No.

Are you saying that Leigh don't need to run off-field activities ?

Re: Cant believe they will be allowed to stay in SL : Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:07 pm  

griff1998 wrote:

How would I know ?

Sorry I assumed you had knowledge of the system and how it can be used/exploited

No.

so Sheffield dont make any actual income from matchdays ?

Are you saying that Leigh don't need to run off-field activities ?

not at all , they do make income from matchdays , but obviously not enough to run the club , I wouldn't expect any club to be able to rely on a single income stream at any level , let alone ours , that would be silly

I have no alterior motive behind these questions , quite simply looking for ways that any/all clubs , especially those outside SL can increase income , I have to say , that I have wondered how particularily the Eagles have managed to put together the type of competitive squads they have over the years , given their lowish attendances and not possessing their own [ owned ] stadium

Re: Cant believe they will be allowed to stay in SL : Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:08 pm  

Back on subject , it seems the Bulls new owners will be paying back 10 % of the clubs outstanding debts , how generous

Re: Cant believe they will be allowed to stay in SL : Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:56 pm  

littlerich owes me 5 squid.

that is all.