The Coin Toss : Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:45 pm  

What actually happened? What is the actual rule? Ive trawled through the RFL website and i cant find it anywhere.

Whenever i have seen it happen before it has always been a case of whoever wins the toss decides whether to recieve the ball or not and the other team then decides which way they will play. Is this not the case now? Gareth Hewer can be hear to say that he dosnt know what the confusion is all about and also mentions that MC isnt happy about it. Anyone shed any light on the matter.

It should probably be on the RFL website for everyone to see, maybe they should add some tips for Fev as well about how to do well in GP situations.

Re: The Coin Toss : Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:06 pm  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

What actually happened? What is the actual rule? Ive trawled through the RFL website and i cant find it anywhere.

Whenever i have seen it happen before it has always been a case of whoever wins the toss decides whether to recieve the ball or not and the other team then decides which way they will play. Is this not the case now? Gareth Hewer can be hear to say that he dosnt know what the confusion is all about and also mentions that MC isnt happy about it. Anyone shed any light on the matter.

It should probably be on the RFL website for everyone to see, maybe they should add some tips for Fev as well about how to do well in GP situations.

its also the same rule in many other sports around the world.
i too want the ref investigating for saying that and doing it if infact his words are wrong.
and even if he just got it wrong then something should be done as he should know such a basic rule as everyone else seemed to do

Re: The Coin Toss : Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:23 pm  

What's written in the Aus rulebook? Surely with it happening almost weekly they'll have a way of doing it which I presume is international.

Re: The Coin Toss : Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:46 pm  

This is what I have found:

The kick off is a place kick from the centre of the halfway line. The team which loses the toss for choice of ends kicks off to start the first half of the game and their opponents kick off to start the second half.

Taken from the Laws of the Game on the RFL website under section 8, kick-off and drop out.

So, as far as I can see it from that above Featherstone won the toss and opted to play downhill meaning Fax had to kick off uphill. Which is what happened.

Re: The Coin Toss : Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:51 pm  

That doesn't make sense though because Fev won both the final and semi toss and CHOSE to recieve the ball. According to that they were always going to get it anyway so should have just chosen ends. All a means to the same end but you can see the confusion.

Re: The Coin Toss : Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:53 pm  

Actually forget that. We got the ball in the final haha. Doh!

Edit: Actually no (clearly just talking to myself now ) There was that debate amoung fans after Fev chose to kick it to us which some Fev fans didn't agree with, therefore that doesn't fit in with the above rule either. I'll leave it there for now I think.

Re: The Coin Toss : Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:07 pm  

who cares? we won, and will be building sandcastles on the beach surrounded by donkeys, in red and white! ha

joking, gonna be a right day! i cani wait pet!

Re: The Coin Toss : Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:14 pm  

SIMMSFAXTEDDY wrote:

who cares?

GFB does. He asked the question.

Re: The Coin Toss : Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:20 pm  

TS. i have also found this in the RFL laws of the game under section 5 - start of play

The captains of the two teams shall toss the coin in the presence of the referee. The captain winning the toss shall decide to either kick off or choose which end his team shall defend. The losing captain shall take the other of the alternatives.

So going by this Fev won the toss and elected to play down hill therefore fax had the opportunity to kick or received if i have got this right

Re: The Coin Toss : Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:35 pm  

fullbackshirt wrote:

TS. i have also found this in the RFL laws of the game under section 5 - start of play

The captains of the two teams shall toss the coin in the presence of the referee. The captain winning the toss shall decide to either kick off or choose which end his team shall defend. The losing captain shall take the other of the alternatives.

So going by this Fev won the toss and elected to play down hill therefore fax had the opportunity to kick or received if i have got this right

You have got it right. Nice one for finding this. I went for the obvious title of 'kick-off', not expecting it to be elsewhere. It then shows a conflict in the Laws of the Game pertaining to this matter. Hewer was correct in respect of the Law I found, and wrong with respect to the one you found.