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Help Required ? : Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:43 pm  
Not an unexpected result tonight,we are what we are and that I fear will not be a top 4 side. What concerns me though is who does RM go to for advice on players,game plans,opposition,transfer targets, player development etc.etc. I do not believe we have any BOD experience in this area or anyone within the coaching team to offer input. This is not criticism merely a question whether we need an experienced person within the club for RM to lean on and learn from.
They will will have to be paid but it may be worthwhile, I realise Murrell & Grix get involved but would someone outside the group be more effective?
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Re: Help Required ? : Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:11 pm  
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Not an unexpected result tonight,we are what we are and that I fear will not be a top 4 side. What concerns me though is who does RM go to for advice on players,game plans,opposition,transfer targets, player development etc.etc. I do not believe we have any BOD experience in this area or anyone within the coaching team to offer input. This is not criticism merely a question whether we need an experienced person within the club for RM to lean on and learn from.
They will will have to be paid but it may be worthwhile, I realise Murrell & Grix get involved but would someone outside the group be more effective?

Yep, I think your right, not unexpected and it's about where we are being a part time club and with the money we have.
Year on year the Championship has got progressively stronger and there are some goods sides, some of which are full time, some of which are spending a lot more than us and it's getting harder to compete, tonight for example we were probably at full strength barring JWH and the score line was pretty comprehensive.

It will be interesting to see what RM has to say and how and if the club can respond because you would have thought if they can change anything it will need to happen very soon or be cut adrift.
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Re: Help Required ? : Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:44 pm  
We are not a top 4 club, and I honestly don't believe the BOD have the experience or funds to move the club forward. Looking through Companies House, it also concerns me that there has been a big 'turnover' of directors in a relatively short period of time. Something to ponder on.

With the current set-up as it is, don't expect miracles.
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Re: Help Required ? : Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:34 am  
6th place at best said it start of season. still back them tho,i worry for next season,money wise. playing young lads in cup game probly cost us has mr mc namara said on twitter 20,000 plus may have been tv. at least we can play batley on cup day has a bonus :WALL: :BOW:
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Re: Help Required ? : Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:54 pm  
I think you have a point, one thing I heard about the FC Halifax Town boss Billy Heath who got sacked was that he did not have the contacts in the game to sign players from hence why he over relied on his old club North Ferriby. I hope Richard Marshall has a good relationship with people at other clubs, I guess he has with Cas so we shall see.
A club's Board does need RL experience which maybe the current Board doesn't?
We need a Knight in Shining armour.
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Re: Help Required ? : Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:57 am  
A few years ago Brian Noble was on board to give experience, from what I remember mixed fortunes and he got short shrift from some people saying we don 't need him, or his like. Hind site is always 20 20 . Is there anyone out there RM could lean on even part time?
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Re: Help Required ? : Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:57 pm  
I think if Pete is putting on twitter things like that then he really doesn't understand what being a director is.....it's about stopping mistakes like that before they happen . That's what managers and owners should do. What is in place to stop it happening again and has the full conversation been had with Rm. he of all people knows the money situation I can't help but think Richard needs to become far more innovative with the opportunities and resources he has to resolve the problems. To be fair to the board I think they have provided him with all they could this year . It's up to him to start being more flexible and listen more. Get Sheridan or someone in from Cas to have a good hard look at what we do and pull it apart a bit. There is no problem behind closed doors. Rm needs to be far more open to change perhaps we have been too accommodating to him. I just get the feeling this year he's off the pace as were some of our players at season start.
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Re: Help Required ? : Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:44 am  
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I think if Pete is putting on twitter things like that then he really doesn't understand what being a director is.....it's about stopping mistakes like that before they happen . That's what managers and owners should do.


Knowing Peter with his passion for the club and the desire to see it thrive, I know he will have tried. There is only so much a director can do before the relationship with a coach starts to break down - yes the coach should take input but he is paid to coach and pick the team. Seeing how hard Peter and the other directors work to bring money into the club I can see how frustrating it is for them to see the coach ‘throw away’ £20k by picking a weakened team.
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Re: Help Required ? : Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:52 pm  
Not being a twitter user, I do not know what has been said by Peter, but if it is likely to to be barbed it will not help .
I M O R M does now need to ask for help, if it is someone from the outside, as Jensen F F says, and not to sulk about the advice being offered, sometimes when we are so close to things we cannot see the wood for the trees. In my profession as I am sure in a lot of others these days are called Professional Development, and as much as we all sometimes baulk at them, they do have some value and refresh ideas forgotten or shelved. A look back at his previous playbooks both at his previous club and early days at fax . any little helps to move the Fax forward, the last thing we need is in fighting between management.
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Re: Help Required ? : Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:39 pm  
Can't we borrow Sheridan or Orr on DR backs guidance ?
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