: Sun May 17, 2009 7:44 pm  

No need. TS

: Sun May 17, 2009 7:54 pm  

haven4ever wrote:

maybe now calland will get on with coaching instead of giving it big what fors

Maybe you'll stick to your own board and wonder why Haven are crap. You've lost 4 matches dickwad - get over it.

: Sun May 17, 2009 7:55 pm  

marillion man wrote:

Rubbish. It's his prerogative if he wants to take his time over a goal kick, and the ref's prerogative if he thinks it's sufficient enough to stop the clock.

It's not in the spirit of the game though. It's certainly not what fans want to watch every time he takes a kick.

: Sun May 17, 2009 10:34 pm  

marillion man wrote:

Rubbish. It's his prerogative if he wants to take his time over a goal kick, and the ref's prerogative if he thinks it's sufficient enough to stop the clock.

It was nothing to do with us losing today but come on those goal kicks took an age, every time even in front of the posts why?
There was no need unless they thought it was a good way to lose time and I have a suspicion thats exactly why he did it?
No sour grapes just annoying to watch, even if it had been Patterson I would say just get on with it.
Surely the time should be off until he runs to kick the ball?

: Mon May 18, 2009 6:46 am  

Fax4Life wrote:

It was nothing to do with us losing today but come on those goal kicks took an age, every time even in front of the posts why?
There was no need unless they thought it was a good way to lose time and I have a suspicion thats exactly why he did it?
No sour grapes just annoying to watch, even if it had been Patterson I would say just get on with it.
Surely the time should be off until he runs to kick the ball?

Whilst Woodcocks slow kicks were pretty annoying I dont think the ref did anything wrong with them. The rules say that once a minute is up the clock stops, until he starts to move to kick. On each occasion the ref looked at his watch and then stopped the clock. I also doubt it was any clear attempt to slow the game down, as he took exactly the same time to take the kick when the game was over.

: Mon May 18, 2009 7:22 am  

spanishbob wrote:

as he took exactly the same time to take the kick when the game was over.

I await this tactic at the Don Valley against Batley then

: Mon May 18, 2009 8:52 am  

There is actually no stipulation on time for kicking at goal. The only rule says

SECTION 13 Penalty Kick

5. No Delay - No player shall deliberately take any action which is
likely to delay the taking of a penalty kick.

Should the kickers side infringe then:

6. If the kick is not taken as stated or if a player of the
infringes kicker’s team infringes, a scrum shall be formed at
the mark, provided it is no closer than twenty metres
to the touch line.

However the ref has a duty to not allow time to be lost. The only thing that covers the time taken is that the ref can stop the clock if he feels the kicker has taken enough time to do his job. The rough rule is a minute but is not set in stone. It could be ten seconds if the kicker chooses to throw the ball away from his point rather then set up the kick.

However woodcock didn't break any rules, the ref just applied the laws.

: Mon May 18, 2009 9:28 am  

-Fax- wrote:

No need. TS.

: Mon May 18, 2009 9:43 am  

Sheffield came with spoiling and slowing the game down tactics and executed it perfectly so well done to them. I suppose a positive out of yesterday is we are no longer waiting for our first "fall" and am pretty certain we can't play as bad as that again!!!

: Mon May 18, 2009 10:08 am  

Matt Calland had been saying your defence hadn't been doing its job properly and you'd reggret it if it wasn't tightened up, which I presume is what happened. Like all coaches, he can only do so much - I do wonder what goes on between the ears of some rugby players - not least ours last Thursday.

Hard luck but it gives the rest of us a bit of a filip now.