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Re: Get voting - Yes : Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:03 am  
Ask the Leythers what it's like under a stadium management company btw... Don't seem best impressed!
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Re: Get voting - Yes : Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:03 am  
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i would think it`s a tad difficult to move any kind of office in there with no phones.

bang on, why taking so long, incompetence by those running the stadium?
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Re: Get voting - Yes : Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:25 pm  
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Ask the Leythers what it's like under a stadium management company btw... Don't seem best impressed!


Just to correct you a little, The Stadium Company at the LSV you talk about consists of W$%^n Council Staff, so not much different to the Shay now
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Re: Get voting - Yes : Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:37 pm  
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Just to correct you a little, The Stadium Company at the LSV you talk about consists of W$%^n Council Staff, so not much different to the Shay now


Not to forget , they are w1g4n council staff , but every one of them except one is from Yorkshire :roll:
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Re: Get voting - Yes : Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:57 pm  
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Not to forget , they are w1g4n council staff , but every one of them except one is from Yorkshire :roll:


Makes sense to me
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Re: Get voting - Yes : Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:36 pm  
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So you want people to vote yes, that the Council should sell the Shay, but think the best solution would be to see the Council lease it out? :WALL:

It is pointless the Council leasing out the stadium because if the stadium management company goes tits up it will be back in the hands of the Council. Plus any external organisation would be adding another middle man wanting a cut of profits. The Council would want its rent for being land owner, the management company would want its cut, meaning costs would go up and potentially the clubs' rent.

Keeping it under the Council's control would be the best way, riding out the recession (£100k is pennies to the local authority) and then be creative in what they do with the available office space, etc. Blimey, if they want to be boring then why not just move certain Council offices into the space and then everyone's a winner.



Yer okay the vote was to sell and yer I say to lease it would be best BUT the point I am making is Council run means they will not invest any more money into the Shay in future, we have had what we will get now. Innovation and Councils do not go hand in hand, especially Calderdale!
Under Council control we are at the mercy of Councillors and we know what most of them think don't we?

Nah a not for profit Stadium Company with a good management team and say a 'Steering Group' to keep a watching brief would work imo.

The point being if the stadium was all under a Stadium Company and one management structure they could chose what they charge for things (not like now with EMC) and reinvest any profits made into the stadium and not have to give it to the Council central pot, like what happens with the Borough Market which makes money but never sees a penny back being spent on it, thats why its now in a bad state.
Under Council control you get jobsworths running things and you also have to go to committes galore to do anything major.
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Re: Get voting - Yes : Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:03 am  
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bang on, why taking so long, incompetence by those running the stadium?


Well if I had any kind of involvment with the place that is the first thing I would be questioning , in order to bring in money the place has to be fully utilised and a reasonably simple thing like have a fully operational phone network would enable the Local Authority to do that. I would want to know why this is not happening ,
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Re: Get voting - Yes : Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:42 pm  
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Yer okay the vote was to sell and yer I say to lease it would be best BUT the point I am making is Council run means they will not invest any more money into the Shay in future, we have had what we will get now. Innovation and Councils do not go hand in hand, especially Calderdale!
Under Council control we are at the mercy of Councillors and we know what most of them think don't we?

Nah a not for profit Stadium Company with a good management team and say a 'Steering Group' to keep a watching brief would work imo.

The point being if the stadium was all under a Stadium Company and one management structure they could chose what they charge for things (not like now with EMC) and reinvest any profits made into the stadium and not have to give it to the Council central pot, like what happens with the Borough Market which makes money but never sees a penny back being spent on it, thats why its now in a bad state.
Under Council control you get jobsworths running things and you also have to go to committes galore to do anything major.


"A not for profit Stadium Company!"

What planet are you on. There's no such thing. Where is the incentive for a company to take over the stadium if they're not allowed to make a profit?

OK, let's place an ad that goes something like:

"WANTED - A company with experience in running a Sports Stadium but requiring no reward other than to see the happy, smiling faces of the supporters of HRLFC and FCHT and to receive their grateful thanks and undying gratitude."
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Re: Get voting - Yes : Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:57 pm  
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What planet are you on.


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Re: Get voting - Yes : Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:31 pm  
DemonUK wrote:
Just to correct you a little, The Stadium Company at the LSV you talk about consists of W$%^n Council Staff, so not much different to the Shay now


Is it council run then but just under a stadium company? Or just a few council staff also on books?
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