Re: Justice for Fax : Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:59 pm  

Bluethunder wrote:

Oh !! for God's sake, sit down, shut up and wind your kneck !!!!! all this bleating andwhinging isn't going make an iota of difference to the decision, you can stand in the corner and spit your dummy out from now until hell freezes, but face facts, you are not getting a licence.

So accept it, sit down, get your stadium right, your crowd figures right, I mean genuine ones, not the super inflated figures you tried to con the rugby public with, finances in order and get a good youth policu and youth teams going, then apply again. Until you do all that you are not going to get any sympathy about your positio

To be honest with you, the more you go on about the decision, the more people are going to get pi**ed off with you.

who do you support?

Re: Justice for Fax : Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:13 pm  

rlw wrote:

how about, stadium, finance ( dont give me BS about the future with your new owner, you should be judged on your past, anyone can make promises), community work (yes i believe ours is better seen as we have won awards for it), training facilities now we have the new college, on field performance.
on the other hand you have better junior development, i make that 5-1.

however, congratulations on your success, and i would definitely rather have you than 'saders and 'quins

Okay, we might not have the fanciest stadium, but I've never had an issue with it - it's great in the sun, I wear a coat if it's cold and put my hood if it rains. Finance is irrelevant now, as administration was no longer a criteria as this was withdrawn to protect Crusaders. Either way, it would only have an effect up to 2010 and we went in to administartion in 2011. We've also won awards for our community work, but you probably won't know that. Not quite sure what training facilities have to do with the criteria. On field performance? That's a strange one as we've had a top 5 finish in Super League within the current license period and we've recently being awarded the highest marks for our junior development. Oh, and also we also scored highly on our commercial team too.

Forever Blue and white wrote:

What attendances would Wakefield have in a closed doors championship? Bugger all is the answer to that simple question. You have a better youth set up because it is funded by the RFL we have to fund our own just think what we could do with that RFL funding? Wakefield should be out we should be in simple mate

Not really a valid arguement that is it? How can you be certain that Halifax's attendances would be so great if you were promoted? Personally, I think ours would be higher. We're currently having one of our worst seasons for years, yet crowds are up considerably on last season, yet you want to pull us down for this? Have a look at a few other other clubs in Super League and you'll soon realise that we are far from the worst application. The problem is the media have told us for a while that Wakefield would be out, and if you say something for long enough, people will start believing it.

For what it's worth, I'm actually against franchises, and fully support promotion and relegation, as it gives everyone something to play for. And also, Wakefield have never finished bottom or been relgated from Super League. I'd say we are there on merit.

Re: Justice for Fax : Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:27 pm  

imwakefieldtillidie wrote:

Okay, we might not have the fanciest stadium, but I've never had an issue with it - it's great in the sun, I wear a coat if it's cold and put my hood if it rains. Finance is irrelevant now, as administration was no longer a criteria as this was withdrawn to protect Crusaders. Either way, it would only have an effect up to 2010 and we went in to administartion in 2011. We've also won awards for our community work, but you probably won't know that. Not quite sure what training facilities have to do with the criteria. On field performance? That's a strange one as we've had a top 5 finish in Super League within the current license period and we've recently being awarded the highest marks for our junior development. Oh, and also we also scored highly on our commercial team too.

Not really a valid arguement that is it? How can you be certain that Halifax's attendances would be so great if you were promoted? Personally, I think ours would be higher. We're currently having one of our worst seasons for years, yet crowds are up considerably on last season, yet you want to pull us down for this? Have a look at a few other other clubs in Super League and you'll soon realise that we are far from the worst application. The problem is the media have told us for a while that Wakefield would be out, and if you say something for long enough, people will start believing it.

For what it's worth, I'm actually against franchises, and fully support promotion and relegation, as it gives everyone something to play for. And also, Wakefield have never finished bottom or been relgated from Super League. I'd say we are there on merit.

your playing in a competitive league, we are playing 20 freindlies a season,

we have been in Super League before, you get away support too where as in our league only Widnes and a couple of others bring some.

are you planning on having the new stadium ready in 3 years or will that be part of the next franchise bid having a new stadium.

Re: Justice for Fax : Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:35 pm  

faxtastic wrote:

your playing in a competitive league, we are playing 20 freindlies a season,

we have been in Super League before, you get away support too where as in our league only Widnes and a couple of others bring some.

are you planning on having the new stadium ready in 3 years or will that be part of the next franchise bid having a new stadium.

And that's what really gets my back up, that teams can play for a entire season and not have anything to show for it. Or in your case, three seasons. Sport is about winners and losers on the pitch, not business plans and stadiums. I used to go and watch games all over when Wakefield weren't playing, but the RFL have taken all the pleasure Rugby League so much that I now only care about Wakefield, not the game itself. We're playing Crusaders this Sunday and the game is worthless and nobody will care. Could you imagine if relegation was still possible? It would be the game of the season but instead it's a nothing game. the RFL have done this, not Wakefield.

Re: Justice for Fax : Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:09 am  

If the game on sunday is so worthless will the travelling crusaders supporters get free admission as a thank you.I doubt it cos Wakey ned the money to pay debts.As for comun ity work I have worked in 2 schools in Wakey for over 20 years and we finally got some input from Wakey less than 6 weeks ago.Cas have been into school every year for the last 9 and Fev have been in.

Re: Justice for Fax : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:41 am  

imwakefieldtillidie wrote:

And that's what really gets my back up, that teams can play for a entire season and not have anything to show for it. Or in your case, three seasons. Sport is about winners and losers on the pitch, not business plans and stadiums. I used to go and watch games all over when Wakefield weren't playing, but the RFL have taken all the pleasure Rugby League so much that I now only care about Wakefield, not the game itself. the RFL have done this, not Wakefield.

Just summed up exactly how I feel - nicely put.

Franchises, Super Dooper League, no promotion or relegation has killed off any pleasure around the sport of rugby league. It's made us all insular - only interested in our own club. The game has gone backwards at international level. We have looked to expand but.....at the cost of where the game has always been the strongest.

This is not about Halifax vs Wakefield. The only time it should be is when (or if) we play each other.

Re: Justice for Fax : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:52 am  

Haggis Fax wrote:

Just summed up exactly how I feel - nicely put.

Franchises, Super Dooper League, no promotion or relegation has killed off any pleasure around the sport of rugby league. It's made us all insular - only interested in our own club. The game has gone backwards at international level. We have looked to expand but.....at the cost of where the game has always been the strongest.

This is not about Halifax vs Wakefield. The only time it should be is when (or if) we play each other.

it not fax v wakey you right and i feel wakey are taking it to heart i dont even think our chairman was really having at pop at them just using them as an example because we want to be treated fairly and we dont feel this has applied again and again

Re: Justice for Fax : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:57 am  

Fairness, consistency, enjoyment, pride, soul and love all descriptive words that have been ripped out of the game in the last 20 years.

Re: Justice for Fax : Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:00 am  

haha championship for fax

Re: Justice for Fax : Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:04 am  

Thank you for that breaking news we had all missed it.
Who do you support?