Re: Player Summary : Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:04 pm  

littlerich wrote:

Turn your computer off, shut your mouth and get your hands in your pocket, give up lots of your time and get down to The Shay. Put up or STFU.

Re: Player Summary : Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:27 pm  

The season has been a big disappointment on and off the field. After last year we just never kicked on and some signings were strange and we have been so inconsistant. I get the feeling Karl will make many changes especially in the forwards. It cant have been easy on the players with Matt going, but that doesnt excuse some of the performances that have been put out. The Rail Cup Final was the only real highlight of the season to be honest the rest I would say has been poor. Personally I would only keep Aizue from the props. lovely is a match winner and feel we should keep him on pay as you play basis unless there is a better Aussie out there. I think we will see around 10 players come in as signings or DR´s.

The board have done a great job from bringing us back from the brink of oblivion a few years ago to where we are now challenging for trophies. They have made mistakes and I am sure they would be the first to admit that. The Board deserve our backing and support not being unfairly blasted. Fax are one of the best run clubs in the game and we are not losing money unlike many. The future is bright for me and alot of that is down to the board who have made many personal sacrifices


Miles-KEEP-Deserves another year and probably injuries have not helped
Fieldhouse-KEEP-Good Squad player to have as back up
Worrincy-KEEP-We needed to keep Rob and great he is on a 2 year deal
White-KEEP-Big year and glad he is with us for atleast another year
Goddard-RELEASE- I just have never rated him. He never has fulfilled his potential and often injured. Wouldnt be surprised to see him elsewhere next year
Haley-KEEP-average player but injuries have not helped. Keep for a year and see how he does
Nash-RELEASE-is a liability. On his day can be good but cant see him staying around
Pats-KEEP-Sadly injury has haunted him this year but glad he is staying as he is a very good player.
Jones-RELEASE-Cant say he has impressed much. Sadly not good enough for a top Championship team which is what we should be aiming for.
Black-KEEP-I would keep on a pay as you play basis. Injury hasnt helped him this year
Gannon-RELEASE-Has done OK but the game is so fast and am not sure he can keep up next year.
Aizue-KEEP-Quality player and hope he stays. Leads by example
Chez-RELEASE-Again never really impressed and he is a bog standard forward. Doesnt really break the line or have the explosion of Aizue. Not too bothered if he left.
Watene-RELEASE-Sorry Frank but please retire now. Great bloke but sadly pass it.
Barlow-KEEP- Harrison needs to make him more disciplined and focussed on Rugby and not pretending he is the hardest man on the pitch!!
Chandler-KEEP- has shown potential and for me just lacks experience. Usually gives his best
Penky-KEEP-Best player in the League on his day and has always given 100% to Fax.
Beswick-KEEP-Bit inconsistant but valuable to have around and can be a game winner
Clayton-RELEASE- Never rated him and never understood why we signed him
Smith-RELEASE-Too old and maybe should go coaching
Bannister-KEEP-Decent enough player
Fairbank-KEEP-Cant see it but if we could sign him would be awesome. Top player in defence and attack
Bowman-KEEP-Still unsure but I dont see him as a Halfback but rather a lock/loose forward but think he needs a couple of years yet

Re: Player Summary : Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:43 pm  

The Lucky Black Cat wrote:

The season has been a big disappointment on and off the field.

Cut out rest of quote but I have to say I pretty much agree, Saying Beswick is inconsistent is a bit tough on him though, Penky is in the same boat, they are both great players that we need to keep.
Please release Goddard, I have VERY rarely seen what he is supposed to show, never releases his winger, we would have won NRC if he'd put out the early ball.
Cherrypops, sorry but it;' time to bring the curtain down,there must be better props around Halifax at local level who would make more ground.
One to forget I think but that's because our expectations have risen so much in the last few years and that is mainly down to the hard work of the board.
Thanks guys.

Re: Player Summary : Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:25 pm  

Well the positive today and the only one, is that it makes the decisions of who to keep so much clearer. The papered cracks well and truely fell apart.

Miles.....keep
Feildhouse.... Keep as cover (cant have a worse game than today..can he?)
White ....Keep (unless Alex Brown is available giving you a different style)
Worricy ...keep
Patts....keep
Goddard....sorry ,pace gone ,reaction time too slow, probably too high a wage bill as senior player to merit keeping.
Haley......sorry, again pace gone steady player.
Nash ......has all the skills but clearly not the temperament. Spent all season totally out of condition. A big NO
Jones....confidence drained. Tried hard but even the basics went today. Sorry.
Black....body language today said he was off. Needs a new challenge and get himself back in shape...sorry all the best.
Aizue.... yes keep 1 year
Penky ....keep
Cherry....keep....still young keeps improving . Eat some steak and work like mad on the leg drive power off season.
Smith.....sorry but a season way too far.
Clayton .....improved over the last few games but sorry time to go. Better less expensive bigger players out there.
Bannister....depends what else is on offer runs good lines but size counts and he is relatively lightweight. open verdict
S Barlow .....Keep....yes he let them get to him today.
J Barlow .....havent seen enough to decide.
Gannon.....yes time to go.....but you cant fault his effort this year
beswick ....keep
chandler...keep . thought he should have had more game time in front of clayton and smith.
Watene....father time caught up ,but should have been on today with a lightweight pack . Time to go
Bowman... let him have a year at Keighley
Fairbank .....if we can have him yes. If not well played this year

it really does emphasis the poor recruitment last year which took us backwards not forwards.

What would I like in?

A robust pack and players who give far more than some did today.

Which leaves KH with quite a bit of team building to do, but a fair chunk off the wage bill with senior players leaving to bring in some new faces.
Good luck for 2012!

PS . I will buy the season ticket to help the recruitment fund!

Re: Player Summary : Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:31 pm  

Norman Bates wrote:

Cut out rest of quote but I have to say I pretty much agree, Saying Beswick is inconsistent is a bit tough on him though, Penky is in the same boat, they are both great players that we need to keep.
Please release Goddard, I have VERY rarely seen what he is supposed to show, never releases his winger, we would have won NRC if he'd put out the early ball.
Cherrypops, sorry but it;' time to bring the curtain down,there must be better props around Halifax at local level who would make more ground.
One to forget I think but that's because our expectations have risen so much in the last few years and that is mainly down to the hard work of the board.
Thanks guys.

From what BBC radio Leeds were saying Goddard has already put pen to paper with fax, we will await the announcements to start coming, however I expect slow releases to encourage people to get the new app on their phones for the news.

Re: Player Summary : Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:35 pm  

interceptor wrote:

Well the positive today and the only one, is that it makes the decisions of who to keep so much clearer. The papered cracks well and truely fell apart.

Miles.....keep
Feildhouse.... Keep as cover (cant have a worse game than today..can he?)
White ....Keep (unless Alex Brown is available giving you a different style)
Worricy ...keep
Patts....keep
Goddard....sorry ,pace gone ,reaction time too slow, probably too high a wage bill as senior player to merit keeping.
Haley......sorry, again pace gone steady player.
Nash ......has all the skills but clearly not the temperament. Spent all season totally out of condition. A big NO
Jones....confidence drained. Tried hard but even the basics went today. Sorry.
Black....body language today said he was off. Needs a new challenge and get himself back in shape...sorry all the best.
Aizue.... yes keep 1 year
Penky ....keep
Cherry....keep....still young keeps improving . Eat some steak and work like mad on the leg drive power off season.
Smith.....sorry but a season way too far.
Clayton .....improved over the last few games but sorry time to go. Better less expensive bigger players out there.
Bannister....depends what else is on offer runs good lines but size counts and he is relatively lightweight. open verdict
S Barlow .....Keep....yes he let them get to him today.
J Barlow .....havent seen enough to decide.
Gannon.....yes time to go.....but you cant fault his effort this year
beswick ....keep
chandler...keep . thought he should have had more game time in front of clayton and smith.
Watene....father time caught up ,but should have been on today with a lightweight pack . Time to go
Bowman... let him have a year at Keighley
Fairbank .....if we can have him yes. If not well played this year

it really does emphasis the poor recruitment last year which took us backwards not forwards.

What would I like in?

A robust pack and players who give far more than some did today.

Which leaves KH with quite a bit of team building to do, but a fair chunk off the wage bill with senior players leaving to bring in some new faces.
Good luck for 2012!

PS . I will buy the season ticket to help the recruitment fund!

Can't arugue with any of these comments, a very good reflection on where we are today.

Ball's in-experience showed today in not putting Frank on the bench, we had absolutely no go Forward at all.

Re: Player Summary : Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:09 pm  

Miles- A good off-season and he'll be very sharp for us
Fieldhouse- Was very good as a trialist, can only improve with a full pre-season in a professional environment
Worrincy- Needs to see a sports psychologist to settle his nerves in tense situations and apply evo-stik to his fingers. Wins us games, but is our most gaff prone player.
White- Very good this year
Goddard- Injury prone, misses vital tackles, very inconsistent, hes had too many chances.
Haley- Haley isn't that bad a player, safe under pressure, can pass a ball under pressure, good back up player to keep
Nash- Go back to Aussie Park Rugby
Pats- Good organiser, but not a strike player, he can go for me.
Jones- Super goal kicker, would still be useful as back-up for injuries in the halfbacks
Black- Pay as you play if he can't get signed up with Swinton, Rochdale or Hunslet.
Gannon- As above
Aizue- Could be a risk, considering his age, like Watene this season. Lets hope he has another year in him.
Chez- Never broke a tackle in 4 years, Champ 1 material
Watene- Retirement, surely.
Ostick - Rochdale Mayfield
Barlow- Needs to grow up, come of age, depends whether Harrison thinks he'll be an asset or liability
Chandler- Needs to bulk out
Penky- Player of the season. We would have been fighting for relegation spots without him this year
Beswick- Only seems to play well in front of the SKY cameras. - Undecided.
Clayton- Offers little
Smith- Retirement, though has been impressive towards for back end of the season.
Bannister- Not bad at times, good defender too
Fairbank- will be an SL regular with Huddersfield next year.
Bowman- Needs to gel with the team and could be awesome. He doesn't seem part of the clique. Maybe Karl Harrison can work the lad better than Calland did. They didn't get on too well allegedly.

We need some top strike centres, a big bullying pack & a good scrum-half to work with Handforth.
Wholesale changes needed.

Re: Player Summary : Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:46 am  

I might give my own opinions on players later but i feel Cherryholme has xome in for a lot of unfair stick one here. For me he has improved a lot and although he isnt an explosive prop in the Aizue mould he goes about his work well and shows a good attitude and is the type of player that you have to have in your team. Gets through a ton of work and has to be worth another year for me.

Re: Player Summary : Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:17 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

I might give my own opinions on players later but i feel Cherryholme has xome in for a lot of unfair stick one here. For me he has improved a lot and although he isnt an explosive prop in the Aizue mould he goes about his work well and shows a good attitude and is the type of player that you have to have in your team. Gets through a ton of work and has to be worth another year for me.

I agree fully

Re: Player Summary : Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:28 am  

Greg Florimos Boots wrote:

I might give my own opinions on players later but i feel Cherryholme has xome in for a lot of unfair stick one here. For me he has improved a lot and although he isnt an explosive prop in the Aizue mould he goes about his work well and shows a good attitude and is the type of player that you have to have in your team. Gets through a ton of work and has to be worth another year for me.

I think he could be ok depending on who plays around him. The pack this year was full of these workers who offer little going fwds in cherryholme, Clayton, smith, gannon. I think our attack suffered because of it