Re: Sam Tomkins goes to Rugby Union. : Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:06 pm  

England currently lack a flair fly half who can take on the line, this is what I believe they will be looking at Sam for. Charlie Hodgson and Toby Flood simply not good enough. I'd put my mortgage on this is where Sam will be being targeted for in time for next RU world cup which is here and we will be desperate to win it.

Re: Sam Tomkins goes to Rugby Union. : Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:50 am  

chris_smith wrote:

England currently lack a flair fly half who can take on the line, this is what I believe they will be looking at Sam for. Charlie Hodgson and Toby Flood simply not good enough. I'd put my mortgage on this is where Sam will be being targeted for in time for next RU world cup which is here and we will be desperate to win it.

Possibly but I think outside centre.

Have a beast of an inside centre to create the space for Sam to work his magic outside.

Re: Sam Tomkins goes to Rugby Union. : Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:36 pm  

Well done Wigan and the RFL allowing this to happen! Seriously the RFL should have said to Wigan and Tomkins he is a CONTRACTED League player and as such he should not be promoting other sports or helping to get a Union Contract in 3 or 4 years-as will what happen. The game of RL is run by pillocks like Nigel Wood who seems to think its a good idea.

“I’m sure Sam will be successful on Saturday when he plays his first match in an unfamiliar code because he’s a hugely talented Rugby League player, one of many our sport is producing,” said Wood.“Rugby League has an outstanding track record in developing its own players and is continuing to show union the way ahead. Sam’s inclusion in a sport he knows little about is proof of that. You only have to look at how often union has turned to Rugby League players and coaches over the last 15 years to see the calibre of talent we have in our midst.It’s obvious to even the most casual of observers why union continues to covet Rugby League players whose sheer athleticism and outstanding skills with ball in hand make them extremely attractive to the other code of rugby.Sam’s selection underlines that imitation really is the sincerest form of flattery. Both Sam and Rugby League should feel flattered.”

How nieve and pathetic. What the hell is the blue eyed boy of the RFL doing playing in a Union Circus event? How on earth does it help RL? Do you think any top Union player would be allowed to play for the Exiles for example and the RU coming out with such rubbish? Seriously its no wonder the game is looked down upon when you have such idots like Wood running the game.

Re: Sam Tomkins goes to Rugby Union. : Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:54 pm  

The Lucky Black Cat wrote:

Well done Wigan and the RFL allowing this to happen! Seriously the RFL should have said to Wigan and Tomkins he is a CONTRACTED League player and as such he should not be promoting other sports or helping to get a Union Contract in 3 or 4 years-as will what happen. The game of RL is run by pillocks like Nigel Wood who seems to think its a good idea.

“I’m sure Sam will be successful on Saturday when he plays his first match in an unfamiliar code because he’s a hugely talented Rugby League player, one of many our sport is producing,” said Wood.“Rugby League has an outstanding track record in developing its own players and is continuing to show union the way ahead. Sam’s inclusion in a sport he knows little about is proof of that. You only have to look at how often union has turned to Rugby League players and coaches over the last 15 years to see the calibre of talent we have in our midst.It’s obvious to even the most casual of observers why union continues to covet Rugby League players whose sheer athleticism and outstanding skills with ball in hand make them extremely attractive to the other code of rugby.Sam’s selection underlines that imitation really is the sincerest form of flattery. Both Sam and Rugby League should feel flattered.”

How nieve and pathetic. What the hell is the blue eyed boy of the RFL doing playing in a Union Circus event? How on earth does it help RL? Do you think any top Union player would be allowed to play for the Exiles for example and the RU coming out with such rubbish? Seriously its no wonder the game is looked down upon when you have such idots like Wood running the game.

The game isn't looked down upon, you have to remember it's a miority sport in England and will never be able to compete with RU or Aussies RL for £££s and profile.

Woods is making the point the the sport even though not often thought about down south is actually where the real talents at, don't you think this is good for RL?

I see parents watching junior RU and always passing comment on the dual code players in RU as having better overall skills, so guess what? they go and sign them on with RL in the off season to improve their son's skills. Woods is just cementing this point and it can only attract budding RL and RU stars to the beautiful game that is RL.

Re: Sam Tomkins goes to Rugby Union. : Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:24 pm  

chris_smith wrote:

England currently lack a flair fly half who can take on the line, this is what I believe they will be looking at Sam for. Charlie Hodgson and Toby Flood simply not good enough. I'd put my mortgage on this is where Sam will be being targeted for in time for next RU world cup which is here and we will be desperate to win it.

Tomkins won't play fly half, hasn't got a good enough boot. Inside centre or full back.

Re: Sam Tomkins goes to Rugby Union. : Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:04 pm  

wereutherein1987? wrote:

The game isn't looked down upon, you have to remember it's a miority sport in England and will never be able to compete with RU or Aussies RL for £££s and profile.

Woods is making the point the the sport even though not often thought about down south is actually where the real talents at, don't you think this is good for RL?

I see parents watching junior RU and always passing comment on the dual code players in RU as having better overall skills, so guess what? they go and sign them on with RL in the off season to improve their son's skills. Woods is just cementing this point and it can only attract budding RL and RU stars to the beautiful game that is RL.

The game is a laughing stock. Ever heard Soccer fans or general sports fans on how they see a team that has lost 3 games in 2 years and won the League Trophy twice and Grand Final once are forced to stay down whilst another team who struggled to make the play offs is promoted over everybody else or that teams in SL can go in to administration and lie about grounds and nothing happens. The game is looked down upon for such things and laughed at. The media treat us like dirt. Wood and the idiots at the RFL should be looking to build the game up and not allowing Englands alleged best player and known player to go flaunting his talent in a another sport especially one which has a History of now snaring our players. Why might as well wave the white flag and say to Rugby Union- Here come and take our best players its OK we are just a minority Sport.

If you really believe people will pay much attention to the Union Circus on the weekend just because Tomkins is playing and think oh he looks good I will put my kid in a League team then you are living in a dream. The Barbarians game is so important in Union that there are Union League games on and the Welsh are pulling out. The press are not reporting much on it or Tomkins so its not exactly promoting Rugby League. Tomkins is signed for 3 years to play Rugby League. He is the highest earner in the ENglish game yet thats not enough. He should have been told that he is not allowed to play. And as for this BS that the players are tired and near burnout well whats he doing playing? He should be having a rest. The only winners in this is Union and Sams and probably Wigans bank account

Re: Sam Tomkins goes to Rugby Union. : Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:25 pm  

The Lucky Black Cat wrote:

The game is a laughing stock. Ever heard Soccer fans or general sports fans on how they see a team that has lost 3 games in 2 years and won the League Trophy twice and Grand Final once are forced to stay down whilst another team who struggled to make the play offs is promoted over everybody else or that teams in SL can go in to administration and lie about grounds and nothing happens. The game is looked down upon for such things and laughed at. The media treat us like dirt. Wood and the idiots at the RFL should be looking to build the game up and not allowing Englands alleged best player and known player to go flaunting his talent in a another sport especially one which has a History of now snaring our players. Why might as well wave the white flag and say to Rugby Union- Here come and take our best players its OK we are just a minority Sport.

If you really believe people will pay much attention to the Union Circus on the weekend just because Tomkins is playing and think oh he looks good I will put my kid in a League team then you are living in a dream. The Barbarians game is so important in Union that there are Union League games on and the Welsh are pulling out. The press are not reporting much on it or Tomkins so its not exactly promoting Rugby League. Tomkins is signed for 3 years to play Rugby League. He is the highest earner in the ENglish game yet thats not enough. He should have been told that he is not allowed to play. And as for this BS that the players are tired and near burnout well whats he doing playing? He should be having a rest. The only winners in this is Union and Sams and probably Wigans bank account

I must living the dream as I can't wait to see ST give RU a crack.... wouldn't normally watch the Barbarians.

Kids are playing RL after playing RU along side RL players, it's not dream world it's a fact.

Re: Sam Tomkins goes to Rugby Union. : Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:52 am  

Leon Ashton wrote:

Tomkins won't play fly half, hasn't got a good enough boot. Inside centre or full back.

Think you'll find ST has a cracking boot and can apparently use both feet!! It's catching he has a problem with!! He is a decent place and goal kicker just doesn't get chance at Wigan

Re: Sam Tomkins goes to Rugby Union. : Wed Nov 23, 2011 7:54 pm  

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Re: Sam Tomkins goes to Rugby Union. : Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:45 pm  

halifaxjohn wrote: :MOTOR: Never saw this coming? http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyunion/ ... ml&BID=504 Shame, don't think he'll such much of the ball out on the wing

halifaxjohn wrote: :MOTOR: Never saw this coming? http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyunion/ ... ml&BID=504 Shame, don't think he'll such much of the ball out on the wing