Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:22 am  

Fax4Life wrote:

I agree but can't see it happening as they hold that trump card 'come into the light and you may get a SL Franchise my little Championship club'.

I wish we could stick two fingers up to Fat Controller and his cronies, he makes me think did he come from Russia as he behaves just like one of their mafia?

Totally agree. Unfortunately there is little opposition. SL fans stick up for each other because they realise who ridiculous the administration is and dont want to jeopardise their own positions. Those outside appreciate what is wrong, but do little about it except moan about it on internet discussion forums.

The clubs need to grow a backbone and start speaking out and the supporters of clubs outside of SL need to start highlighting what a mess Wood and all are making of the game and hope SL fans sit up and smell the coffee.

Sadly there just isnt a credible supporters organisation who will speak out.

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:45 am  

littlerich wrote:

We've broken away already - effectively.

IT IS UP TO THE CHAIRMEN OF CHAMPIONSHIP clubs to get together and pool resources and ideas. The RFL aren't going to do it for them and the SL Elite aren't either. Who do we think we are? Bradford Bulls?

As hard as it may seem, destiny is in our own hands

I'll be making another attempt to get them together again this year

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:30 am  

I'd guarentee now,95% of championship clubs will never vote in favour of sl clubs breaking the tie with the rfl as long as theres 90k coming in from the sky tv deal?.

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:17 am  

It isnt about ' breaking away ' as such, its about taking control of your own destiny, by working together to improve the image of the competition we play in and increasing the revenue streams available to the clubs

The Governing body just dont understand that we need a different approach to the full time clubs and competition, to use an oft used quote of derision, " we are a local sport for local people ", in fact it seems like SL are using something similar on their new rolling billboards

TV is never going to pay us enough for our competition, we need to find a different non match income stream to support us , to do that we need to collaberate with each other as individual clubs we are far too weak, it is only as a collective group will we ever be taken seriously

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:30 am  

Fax4Life wrote:

I agree but can't see it happening as they hold that trump card 'come into the light and you may get a SL Franchise my little Championship club'.
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Which in itself really requires clubs to bite the bullet, be realistic, and in some ways behave how the RFL want us to behave, you have to ask yourself, do you want to be stuck at the bottom of a franchised SL like a Salford ? , slowly losing your fan base , year on year?

I dont want Leigh to get into SL until we have at least an outside chance of being competitive from day one, that requires a SL sized fan base, or a non RL related income stream that is unaffected by how well you do on the pitch , prefferably both

That is the challenge to the Championship clubs

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:49 am  

j.c wrote:

i think he's talking about the Union they are setting up which is 'aparenly' just for sl players

I believe the aim is to include Championship players in the long term

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:57 am  

bentleyman wrote:

I believe the aim is to include Championship players in the long term

But who will have the voting power?

Re: Enough is Enough : Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:45 pm  

j.c wrote:

i think he's talking about the Union they are setting up which is 'aparenly' just for sl players

That's correct. They may help coaching amatuer clubs and good on them for that but I'm sure being part of and having the backing of a nationally recognised union is better than being a breakaway group.

It just looks like a the same old pattern of SL, get it all together and stuff anything that isn't part of it.

Re: Enough is Enough : Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:08 am  

Bubba wrote:

Totally agree. Unfortunately there is little opposition. SL fans stick up for each other because they realise who ridiculous the administration is and dont want to jeopardise their own positions. Those outside appreciate what is wrong, but do little about it except moan about it on internet discussion forums.
Oh and Supporters Direct dare not speak out as they are part funded by? The RFL.
The clubs need to grow a backbone and start speaking out and the supporters of clubs outside of SL need to start highlighting what a mess Wood and all are making of the game and hope SL fans sit up and smell the coffee.

Sadly there just isnt a credible supporters organisation who will speak out.

The Fax Trust tried to 'facilitate' this last year by helping to form a separate group and guess what? Some of own fans thought we were too 'bolshy' and trying to cause trouble that would come back and hurt the club and said it was not our role etc... The club even tried when they quite rightly aired their views after their unsuccesful Franchise bid, but what did the the RFL do? They leaned on them making them write almost an 'apology' and put out whispers how our bid was poor, this was gleefully ceased on by other clubs to use against us! Just like Leigh and Widnes the time before this round who got 'leaned on' and told to shut up remember?
That is how much power the RFL have you dare not speak out, its a terrible situation to be in and like I keep saying its like being in North Korea we are all gagged.
One day Fat Controller will get his come uppance and I cannot wait the horrible man.

Re: Enough is Enough : Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:45 am  

Fax4Life wrote:

The Fax Trust tried to 'facilitate' this last year by helping to form a separate group and guess what? Some of own fans thought we were too 'bolshy' and trying to cause trouble that would come back and hurt the club and said it was not our role etc... The club even tried when they quite rightly aired their views after their unsuccesful Franchise bid, but what did the the RFL do? They leaned on them making them write almost an 'apology' and put out whispers how our bid was poor, this was gleefully ceased on by other clubs to use against us! Just like Leigh and Widnes the time before this round who got 'leaned on' and told to shut up remember?
That is how much power the RFL have you dare not speak out, its a terrible situation to be in and like I keep saying its like being in North Korea we are all gagged.
One day Fat Controller will get his come uppance and I cannot wait the horrible man.

It is very much like living in a dictatorship were any ' dissent ' is punished, the only answer is to find your own money, devoid of RFL influence, and that can only happen with collaberation, and that can only happen by dissassociating the sport from the business, and the swallowing of pride and ego

There is no current Championship club in a position to make a viable SL franchisee, the club owners need to accept that, as do the fans, unfortunatly the fans put too much pressure on the owners to declare their ambitions, rather than using their brains to state the truth

We need money, it isnt going to come from SKY, or any other broadcaster , we need to find a different way

Look at the SL SKY deal? , it is essentially a evenly split collaberation between 14 clubs, some clubs have more value to SKY than others, but all essentially recieve the same, that is what has to haapen at our level, but currently our clubs do not work together , they work against each other, this plays directly into the hands of the RFL, who want and use a divide and conquer system to control us

They dangle the carrot and tell us how high to jump, if the clubs were to state they no longer want the carrot, there is no need to jump , but can we as fans accept that? , can we accept the truth ?